Spoiler The Abandoned Empress

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  1. shelldon

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    Sigh. Now, i can say that Aristia has the right to be a drama queen. The 1st life is really tragic.

    Thanks boohoo. It is now clear why keirean did not savs his daughter and what had happened to him.

    After tia death, has ruve does not have any conscience about it? As in no grief just only after 4 years when ruve was about to die?

    About keirean and dishonor life mention, is this was aristia wanted? I think eventhough the nobles voted for execution, the emperor still has the final say and he choose execution because he thinks he still has jieun.
     
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    Thanks so much for the spoiler!
    My BP just spiked and now my heart is breaking :blob_teary:

    Will there be details on how Ruve's life went to shit after this? I hope the lil bitch regrets his every waking moment. I'm out for his blood now :blobdevil:

    I know people deserve second chances... But damnnn~ this dude literally delusioned himself into justifying his cruelty!
    Imma peace out and get drunk right now. I can't handle this :blobconfused::blobexpressionless::facepalm:
     
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    Dudes a mofo. Still clinging on to his delusions as everything goes to hell around him
     
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    You know right he wasn’t in the right state of mind ?
     
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    I'm crying. :blobsob: My love, Keirean, he lost his wife, his daughter (+ his master, the previous emperor, and also Ruve in a way)...and then suicided. :blobsneeze: Tia also, so sad. :blobcry: And even Ruve....:blobconfounded:

    Thanks for spoilers! You're an ANGEL!
     
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    Ah so after Tia died, all the great politicians left because in their eyes, Tia is a great ruler and WILL NEVER BE COMPARED TO JIEUN OF COURSE!!!


    If Jieun helped Tia managed, then she would be able to learn how to manage the empire (get my point??) Tia will advise her this and that.

    Well... if only...

    But how the story runs is how the story goes so better luck next 3rd life:LOL::LOL::LOL:
     
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    You mean to tell me a regular high school girl raised in a democracy wold never be a good ruler compared to a girl raised to be a queen since she was born

    Wow that is some stunning information. Really joggins my noggin
     
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    Jieun is from another world so it only makes sense that she should try at least to learn the system if she decides to be part of it, much so since she is one of its heads. If she didn’t want to learn and is just there to enjoy the perks but not the responsibilities, she deserves any criticism or grievance against her. There is a saying, “before you break the rules, learn them.” She didn’t and she expect everything to be on status quo which is ridiculous. No matter how progressive she may be (which I doubt since she’s a teenager) she was t self aware that she really doesn’t know anything and the power she derived isn’t always forever. And the power she holds is always dependent on others. That is true in monarchies or democracies. Tia is effective to an extent because she was born into the system but she ultimately also became a victim of it.

    The third time isn’t always the charm, look at WMMAP. It might just be the same ending and different means to get there.
     
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    So basically, that time, if keiran etc use their "veto" , Tia can be saved and dismiss from the palace and stay in another country. But because Monique family have a "curse oath" that make them bound to imperial family, no wonder keiran as the knight choose the "honor" than saved her daughter life.

    From the story in the 1st life, all the things start mess after the emperor Mirkan die. The aristocrat and the temple side is more stronger than the noble. And Jieun arrive after Mirkan died so no one can help. Also, the relationship between Tia and Keiran not as good as 2nd timeline.

    In 2nd timeline Jieun arrive earlier, and Mirkan play a big role and have time to settle everything.

    if u read each other POV, Ruve - Tia relationship is full of misunderstanding , Ruve want Tia talk to him, but Tia always cold, so he think she hate him. Tia want Ruve talk to her, but ruve keep silent, and she think he hate her.

    so between couple, COMMUNICATION is a KEY
     
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    Nope, a day after Tia die, Ruve show symptoms of insomnia, he can't eat, sleep etc his life start go to downfall after tia's death.

    No, it's Keiran decision, and the emperor can't do anything if the opposite party ( keiran etc ) won't say anything and accept it.

    Also, from the start Ruve never assume Jieun suit as an empress. Same like Ernia when married to Arkint ( Carsein' dad ) , for Ruve, Jieun is someone who make him relax, who fun to be together with more like a "friend" ( that's why he think maybe this is Love )



    Unpopular Opinion , somehow i thought isn't Ruve - Tia and Claude - Athy relationship have a "similar" pattern ? they made their relationship become better without changing their fate.
     
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    @boohoo

    Can u spoil more pls. When did ruve exactly sort his feelings that he loves tia instead and he admires only jieun.
    In 2nd life jieun tells aristia that ruve loves her, how did jieun arrive on this statement?

    I read in wattpad and others that ruve slap jieun and ruve cries in aristia bedside. Is this true? Do you have the side stories of those? Can you tell more please.....:aww::aww::aww:
     
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    “Would you shut up!”
    Ruve screamed, shoving the documents at the table.

    What's wrong? What Do you mind? Would Your Majesty not have done that?

    His majesty, his majesty, his majesty. Ruve was really sick. He pointed the sword at the count who was trying to persuade.

    "If you say such a thing again, I will cut it off," the count finally shut up.

    However, Ruve felt uncomfortable when he lost his anger for a while.

    Why is he doing this? He's sure the royal court said there was nothing wrong with it. Is it because of too much stress? Well, he didn't know that. He haven't had anything he liked lately. The nobles who find fault with everything, and Jieun, who did not know how to handle the work even though she had been on the throne of the empress for several years,make him frustrated.

    Would it have been different if Aristia and her fraction were there?

    Suddenly an idea flashed through his mind. No, what difference would it have been if there were any close associates of her or His Majesty's father? Even the remaining forces are paying attention to this, and if they had, it would have been worse.

    Ruve looked up and shook his mouth. He felt very stressed. They've been forgotten for years.

    ***

    "Your Majesty is addicted right now."

    What?

    Ruve looked at the man in the quiet, who have honey-colored hair. Not long ago, the young Marquis, who had been expanding his activities a little, looked very serious. His head went blank. Ruve didn't expect to hear such a great story when the marquis asked for a private meeting. He wouldn't dare joke about the empire's owners, and he would have brought up this story because he had some grounds.

    Mir and the Marquis told the story one by one when asked to explain it in detail. He said that there was such a thing like poison from kingdom of Lisa. They said that taking it for a long time makes his chest stuffy, dizzy, and fever and also that he often feels emotion change, irritated and angry at trivial things. That's why he have been getting angry for several years, so intense that he couldn't control his emotions?

    The Marquis said over and over again. The Duke of Jenna was behind it, and this was a plot that had been going on for a very long time. Then he handed a small bottle to Ruve and saying it was an antidote.

    Ruve turned over the books all night. He found the details of the bond between Duke Jenna and the Kingdom of Lisa, as well as the route of the poison. There were also various methods that had been tried through the shroud of phosphorus surrounding it in layers. Various methods through medicine herbs, food, wine, water tanks, etc.

    According to the book, it was certain that Duke Jenna was behind the scenes, but he could not judge only the words of the Marquis. Maybe it's a tactic that's aimed at him in reversely, So Ruve thought it would be better to order someone who can be trusted to conduct a covert investigation in order to ensure that everything is safe.

    So who's going to take this job?

    He recalled the faces of aristocrats working in politics one by one, but there was no such person. In addition, most of the people who had trust were those who had some kind of connection with Duke Jenna. He can't do this. There is not a single reliable person in many of them.

    and continue to here

    No one is there, What have i been doing ? I though i had my own empire, but it's like a country of Duke Jenna.
    The work inside the palace was jurisdiction of woman from generation to generation, so Ruve didn't know the detail, even he pretend, he could see there was a problem with the way Jieun handle it.

    "Silly woman, it has been 4 years since she become empress"

    Ruve picked up the papers. And he read a circle of letters that looked like it was written by the Queen herself, and he put his hand on his forehead.

    What's all this?

    Ruve thought Tia was going to push out Jieun and act as the owner of imperial palace, but she had written a document about the operation of the palace in order. He thought she was a woman of no interest to him, but Tia knew about his slightest taste that no one would ever know

    Suddenly, Ruve remembered an old saying. The queen is a genius, so she must have done well from the beginning

    Did you? You're Like me, who tried until die to catch up My Father- the emperor, did you suffer the pain of cutting bones to become the perfect Empress? you...who got used to hiding your feelings like me as well , you too can't reveal

    I just lived with many thoughts in my heart. Why did I never think about asking? Why are you so expressionless, what do you think of me? I've always guessed, I never tried to asked her what she was thinking or how she was feeling.

    I took it for granted. I thought you like a doll with no emotions, and a poisonous girl who only thinks of the your faction. Why ? Why did I always look at her with prejudice?

    "Duke Las, I'm not sure but can't you help me just once? all I can think of is you and the Duke Tavern. PLease give Jim the opportunity to correct the past mistakes. I'm begging you"

    It was enormous even an hour's struggle to find someone who could come into contact with the Duke without suspicion. Then a few weeks later, Lord Nessil, who had just inherited the title, took the honor in return for the Duke of Las.

    "If there's no one to trust, everyone is a suspect, and I'll try to find a way to help me, so that I can take the letter with me. It was written that if there is no reliable person there, everyone is a suspect"

    Ruve has returned to his office. Mir and Marquis handed reported about the culprit. He was trying to figure out a way to solve the situation with a clearer head after detoxifying the poison. However, the unexpected news he heard one day made the situation a little better again.

    Ruve know, if the child in the empress's stomach was a prince, he will dead immediately after the child was born. Because it's much easier to control state affairs by placing the newborn prince on the throne. In addition, Ji Eun, who will become a Queen is also an easy woman to use. At the moment, a ruthless thought passed through his head.

    What if they get rid of the child? Then he could reverse the current situation with a safer way but Ruve remember the child of the queen ( Tia ) that he lose it with his own hand, and he feel sorry for Jieun, who had already lost a child once and he couldn't make it happen twice.

    Then there was only one way left.

    "I have to get out of the capital. And the two dukes and your troops are forced to return before the Empress gives birth. Then you will gain an advantage in your troops, and and can handle the situation. Beside, I heard that the kingdom of Lisa had plundered several villages on the border. we need hurry"

    ***

    At the political affairs meeting, Ruve declared that he would conquer the kingdom of Lisa by himself. The Duke of Jenna accepted his argument unexpectedly without any resistance. Although the appearance was very uncertain, he had to leave the capital because there was no other way. As soon as he entered the safe distance, he was planning to join the duke's troop.

    Then...

    *****

    "Cough! Cough!"

    "Over there! Get him!"

    "Now it's the last one!"

    With the feeling of falling down, Ruve body was thrown to the ground. He saw a blonde knight blocking his front with a sword pulled out of his sight. The silver armor, which became blood-stained, is reflected in the moonlight, creating a bizarre light.

    Even the way he spouts. There was a slight smile on his mouth. Is this the phenomenon he only heard in words? That you will return back to normal for a very short time, just before your life ends.

    A tear rolled down.

    Where did it go wrong?

    Why have I done so many wrongs?


    " I've always been jealous and rebellious, but in fact I just wanted to be a great like His Majesty ( his father )

    Respected and loved by everyone. Ruve just wanted to be that kind of person

    ***

    "Huh, was it the chief of the guards? Unexpectedly, we catch a big fish "

    " Silent . We never learned how to negotiate with a enemies."

    Ruve can't escape anymore because it's a cliff.

    " HIT IT !"

    "We can't do it ! We must secure the body!"

    In no time, Ruve see silver moon covered in half by the dark clouds above the night sky. The month, which usually just looked alone, seemed very lonely.

    He burst into a laugh.

    " How come I could not see...The moon is really bright. even when it was covered by clouds, why i only see the clouds and not see the moon that was covered in it?"

    Ruve remembered a little child he had seen for the first time. the The little girl who was smiling with one hand out of her mouth, the little girl who was following him with her short tongue, and the little girl who a small child who used to push him out with a heart that was hard to beat, but in fact she was very lovely.

    Why did I forgot about that look? It gradually faded...

    It was getting harder and harder for his body to cool off the cold and Ruve breathe out a breath. Just before his senses finally disappeared, he felt someone hurrying around him. Soon the floating in the ball wrapped him. In the field of black burning, Ruve saw something silvery shimmering on the black river

    Aristia....Are you there?

    No matter how much I ignored you and said something harsh, you were always there. you used to look at me from a far all the whole time.


    As always, are you waiting for me there today? What kind of expression are you now? Does it look like it used to be, or burns hatred at me who killed you? Otherwise, Are you crying like the other day ?

    How about there?
    Are you truly happy with no pain or sorrow like the story you heard as a child? Have you been comfortable there? Or haven't you been waiting for me yet?


    Come on with me now. It's been too late, but from there .......

    The feeling of being immersed in something cold has completely gone. Ruve Stretch out one of his arms and embrace the silver lining . The last words he couldn't pass have passed through a long with the consciousness of falling into the abyss.

    I want to share a story.... talk to you about something I haven't told you....

    * in the novel, no part of that ruve saying I love her etc, I think Ruve show his feeling for Tia at the moment when he die. His regret, his love, was shown in his last sentence " i want talk to you about something I haven't told you"
    *
    And for 2nd life when jieun tells aristia, i think we can know this from Jieun POV ( i still not finish this part hahahahah )
    * For slap scene, in Book 6 there's no such side story, maybe on book 4 - 5 ( i didn't read this )

    *add some interesting part
    in 1st life, when emperor Mirkan die, Tia look at Ruve with cold expressionless face and didn't say anything so Ruve really pissed at her :blobcat_hyper:
    But in 2nd life, when his father die, they talk and sleep together LOL :blob_coffee:
     
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    Jieun wasn’t exactly making her own decisions .
     
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    in the first life , ruve never confessed .
    After tia died , Jieun could never do any of the work ( Tia did all of it for her ) so he told her she wasn’t as good as tia and compared it to her ( there is more to it , do not judge in a singular sense ) .
    Ruve was always fond of tia but duke Jenna and his aunt played a big role in poisoning him and after she died , the haze cleared you could say .
     
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    Thank you very much. I will wait more for your spoilers. :aww:
     
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    People blaming ruve or Jieun or tia are seeing things in such a myopic view .
    There is not just person wrong here , every single person had a mistake in the first life .
    The king , tias dad , ruve , Jieun and tia .
    Duke Jenna , well he isn’t exactly hoping to be the next mr . Right .
    But I am astounded looking at the hate piling up on someone .
    Rather than the last life , in this life atleast ruve is more mature ( way more mature than others of his generation , there is a reason he ends up with tia - please see those interactions) .
    Comparing Jieun and tia , which has been done , Jieun was in more control of her life than tia has ever been . She too faced quite a few horrors and at the end it was her who truly defeated the enemy for tia and ruve .
    If not for the lag in the time at which she arrived , tia would have been too traumatised .
    Tia is fragile and let’s a lot of things hold her back but at the end she is hoping for a better life more than anything and not the revenge like Jieun which is great .
    This isn’t a black and white situation .
    You can’t just feel sad for tia or her dad .
    Others also had a pretty messed up time.
     
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    Yes , however the mess started before the emperor died in a way .
     
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    Huh wait??? You mean after tia died ruve come back a little to his senses? Whose aunt that poison ruve along with jena? Jena is old right so jenas aunt is older or the aunt is ernia?
     
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    To be blunt, you're correct but let's not forget that many people/readers here are for the romantic side of things and in most romance-themed stories, it's always the ML who gets the shit. And the time travel mechanic also allowed Tia to interact with males so there goes shipping and reverse harem mechanic.

    To be blunt for the 2nd time, I think the majority of the blame goes into the previous generation. Mirkan was a shit dad, Keiran was an unfeeling one and Jena was a cunning one who is very good at manipulating people. The empress is understandably not happy with a bastard child she has to acknowledge as her son, Jeremiah the lynchpin made this story even more convoluted. Jieun was caught in the crossfire and became a very convenient pawn for Duke Jenna.
    But parse these threads and Duke Jenna hardly gets mentioned nor credited for his nefarious actions that I almost felt sorry for him.
     
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    About Ruve to Tia in 1st life . In some part he hate her, but in one time he want her. When he hurt her, he regret it. " I never thought any other woman stay beside me except her" this what he said when duke jenna told him to replace Tia as an empress. what i can say, his feeling is a little bit complicated.

    one thing that made me surprise, in 1st life there's no mention about Allendis and Carsein at all :blobdizzy: as if they're no exist, But they are ! in manhwa there's a part where Tia as a queen in 1st life know about them

    In 2nd Life Ruve also being poisoned, But because in this timeline Tia become knight, she found about it earlier and manage to help him
     
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