Agreed. Many KR shoujo manhwa these days have an MC that have a relationship with scum characters and then giving the said scum a backstory and a ‘tragic’ past that is not, in the least, tragic nor excusable for his behavior. the whole ‘humanizing terrible people’ doesn’t sit right with me.. but that’s just my honest opinion.
It doesn't work cuz they forget that "humanizing villains" is not "show the villain being complete irredeemable garbage with zero soft moments or times when they struggle with morality/ethics & then handwave it by having them have a sad backstory that was NEVER hinted at before & then they are automatically forgiven without having to work to regain the protag's trust". There's supposed to be hints/foreshadowing involved, but since the authors tend to write their stories on the fly, I don't think they really plot this kind of stuff ahead properly, so that's why the "humanization" is so half-assed.
For real. and these scums are made to look handsome and powerful, either a prince or a duke. Makes me cringe when they interact with MC and were supposed to have doki doki moments? LOL, only people with low standards will simp. Thank goodness we have more decent manhwa's like Beware of the Villainess.
Exactly- I don't get how the scummy men get off of Scott free from the Devil's eyes, and the MCs are out there suffering. GOSH! Most of these MC's scummy influencers are their fathers, brothers, fiancee, boyfriend, or any of that kind! These authors really don't create anything original!
Went there. As usual, more predictable judgements rather than spoiler. Guess I rather hang here than there.
Read in this thread. There are some spoiler https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/actually-i-was-real.110592/#post-5863497
Now that the Manhwa translations are caught up with the raw, please kindly take discussions to the discussion page and not this spoiler page. Thank you.
Someone needs to compile the spoilers and request the original poster to put it below their first post so that when new people wants to read it we can easily point them to the first page. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome!
Pleeeeease... Can someone give me some spoilers? 1)What happens when Cosette shows up? 2)What are people's reactions? Will they side with Cosette or Kiera? 3) What's the father reaction?
I agree. Honestly, that was one of the reasons I loved Death is the only ending for the Villain so much, because that was probably one of the most realistic approaches. The fact remains, no matter how tragic or messed up your backstory is, you remain responsible for your actions, and just because you had mommy/daddy issues, doesn't excuse the fact that you were a horrible parent and let your child be killed.
so this is what happened about cossette and what basically happened why those things happened lol Spoiler the family of keira's mom kicked out cossette's mom from the duchy, who was the first wife of the duke, coz the family of keira's mom is powerful. they kicked out/assasinated the 1st wife and her child, who is cossette and she died. so cossette was supposed to be real but since the 1st wife wanted revenge coz she was full of hatred about what happened to her, she made a deal with the devil to revive cossette. so the one who's in cossette's body is not the real daughter now, but the devil. however, the devil wanted to ruin and end the world by killing keira who is the saintess. keira's mom is nice and a good mother but her family is powerful and kinda greedy and she was also a victim. on the other hand, the grand duke didn't do anything, he neglected his own family because he wanted to stay neutral in society thus ignore both his wives. even though he got feelings for his 1st wife (cossette's mom), he ignored her pleas for help. same with 2nd wife (keira's mom) who he ignored, hated because of her powerful family and sees her only as a breeder. he is the main reason of all the sufferings because he can't protect his own family. he failed as a husband, father and as the head of the family.
So here's a theory I came up with on why the Duke ignored Kiera: So just like how Claude (WMMAP) chose to ignore Athanasia because of his feelings towards her mother, I think that the Duke decided to ignore Kiera because of his feelings towards her mum But unlike Claude who ignored the original Athanasia because he didn't like that fact that his beloved (her mum) chose her over him, I think the Duke chose to ignore Kiera because he didn't think highly of her birth mother (the second wife) Based on the spoilers provided, I think the MC's mum wasn't a good person ----- in fact, I think she was one of the people who was involved in organising the assassination (wouldn't be surprised if the MC's mum was the one who brought up the idea of assassinating the first wife to her family) Going off of this theory, I believe that the Duke ----- who doesn't think highly of the MC's mother ---- probably went by the motto: "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree" and thus chose to take out his dislike towards the mother on his innocent daughter (the MC). ------------------------------------------------------------ My thoughts and theories: The MC's mother and her family were probably crooks The Duke who knew the MC's mother and her family were crooks, didn't think highly of them and regarded them as nuisances The MC's mum was probably a jealous woman, like a REALLY jealous woman. Jealous enough to bully, harass and eventually murdering the first wife The MC's mum was probably either crazy and ambitious or smart, calculative as well as ambitious. The Duke probably was naturally nicer to Cosette because she reminded him of his first wife (who he actually loved) The Duke could also be treating her better as a means to make amends for not taking action when his first wife was getting bullied and eventually murdered The Duke might also be playing the "Sure...kill them if you want, but just because you've killed them and their kids does not mean I'll acknowledge you let alone your children" card towards the mum Still going of my theory that the MC's mum might've been crazy and jealous, she might've killed the first wife with the hope that the Duke would acknowledge her and favour her now that the "nuisance" (the first wife) was out of the picture. But not only did killing off the first wife make the Duke more disgusted and revolted by her personality, but it also made him distance himself even more from her as well as her offspring. ____________ Anyways, those were just my theories and what I think might be going on. But even if the mum was a scum, that didn't give the Duke an excuse to treat Kiera and (maybe) her brother like TRASH
OKAY I mtled the latest chapter.. here's how it'll go.. I'll just write what I remember ' for thoughts Butler [Robert]: a bill arrived from the traffic department. it was an invoice about the lady renting the airship for an entire day.. Scum duke: Renting an airship for an entire day? How much will it cost? Pay them the money.. 'Of course. I used to feel stuffy too. (?)' Butler: About that.. your grace.. The.. The lady rode the airship together with a man. Scum duke: 'what? a man?' Butler: She was also seen in a restaurant with him.. Scum duke: 'Then those weren't excuses?' *recalls mc when she said to him that she wants to fall in love* 'no..no way.. rented an airship for a man? I don't think it's true... maybe it's better for me to ask her directly' 'Yes, let's ask her directly' *gets up* I'm going to the mc's room. Butler: ah yes.. then I'll inform her.. Scum duke: no it's just a small matter. I'll just ask her right now. maid 1 and maid 2 are squealing at the new dress designed for the tea party. [mc is going to look gorgeous.. I swear.] mc: what is there in that dress for you to be praising it so much(?) aren't all dresses the same? maid 1:no milady this dress is gorgeous look at the design and the delicate jewellery! milady do you have any favourite designer? mc: I like blacksmiths who design swords very good(?) [after that they talk something but I forgot it lol] maid 2: *opens the door* who is it? huh duke? mc: your grace? the duke speaks [I don't remember] maybe he said something like "I came to talk about the airship you rented" I think it was that. maid 2: I shall bring over some tea Scum duke: no need. I won't be here for long maid 2: then I shall bring some cookies Scum duke glares at maid 2 mc: 'why is he suddenly looking like that?' yes I rented an airship the other day.. the price won't be too high right Scum duke: no. price is not the problem. I can't pay without knowing the reason why you rented it. then they talk something Scum duke: Robert mentioned that you were with a man that day mc: *turns into a tomato* how did you *stutters* [gosh mc is such a cinnamon roll! *waves lightsticks* someone needs to protect her] then they talk again Scum duke: 'so Robert was speaking the truth' I need to know his identity. mc: 'is he trying to convince him to stop seeing me(?) and by that stop me from going to the tea party?' *abruptly* I'm tired and I need to rest. Scum duke: wait! [me: damn that was one satisfying reaction you bastard!] mc: is there anything else you need to say your grace? I want to rest now. Scum duke: Why won't you... "am I entitled to ask this? [I think he was trying to say why won't you call me father anymore.... haha burn!!!] Scum duke:............... no take rest. Walks out recalls memory of mc running to him calling him "father" you sunnuva bit*h! you ruined ma girl's smile and now you want her to call you father . hell no! don't even think about it. don't even dream about it. [also if you can stop breathing] even if heaven splits I won't ever allow this! nu-uh nope
I enjoy seeing him get a LITTLE pain but really this is just stupid right now. Big pain is what he deserves She hasn't dealt with Cosette yet alienating him is counter productive Never do anyone a small injury. It's pointless, and just causes problems This kind of emotional behavior is what got her killed in TL 1 There is the argument that being affectionate to him was wasted effort and it's solid, but this telegraphs too much. I am sure plot armor will clean it up in the end and things will break MC's way
dunno this focuses on her character development. so it will get better in the later chapters. also since cosette hasn't come so..