Question Why so much rape?

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  1. Alvory

    Alvory Well-Known Member

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    For all reasons I must say whether it is a romance novel, BL or harem or whatever, the reason why rape occurs so much is beause authors tend to believe that rape is a sort of action used forcefully in the form of love. Of course this isn’t true but in the end all these stories end up having women/men becoming rape and by the end of the story, this isn’t rape because the rapist loves him/her despite the fact that there was no proper consent. Happily ever after
     
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    self insert ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) good unintended pun there
     
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    You serious bro? The issue isn't that rape happens in novels. The problem is that it's portrayed as acceptable, and carried out by the "good guys."

    In most modern societies, raping someone is NOT OKAY. Raping someone makes you not only a criminal, but a scumbag. And surprising to say, it's not just OP who holds this view. Cannot believe I have to say this.
     
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  4. spongeeee

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    I see you're a man of culture aswell
     
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  5. Genfrauz

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    depends the background of the story/universe... the biggest the power the less rule u have to abid, easy
    do u believe history cant be like most novels out there?
     
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    zarvi Ojisan

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    I assume you are talking about cn novels.
     
  7. rhianirory

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    its the easiest way to make the love interest fall in love with the MC without him having to do anything else. i don't know why, but in most of these novels rape = love, which is very far from reality. rape isn't in every novel, but it's in almost all harem novels. filter out harem and you should be fine.
     
  8. Arbalest

    Arbalest Arcane Knight Anti Mage Honeytrap Devourer

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    Why not? Rape is one of the key elements that make a boring story a lot better just like coloring a different colors on a plain art pictures.
     
  9. reagents 11

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    Lack of understanding in the issue is the problem. Then again the depiction of rape and said rape victims mind state after doesn't depicts the reality of things. I wouldn't say it's completely irrelevant but it's quite hardly relatable IRL. So just like "Murder" you take it as fictional.

    Thread starter problem is he read the works without knowing and rightly so he should be angry for author that do not warn it's reader of explicit content. However look at what site you're reading them if they in fact don't have such rule or norm to put the tags their sites may have such content as a common things. Just bid the site goodbye.
     
  10. Phantom-Z

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    I wonder, from your points of view, when does it becomes rape exactly ?
    Because for some of those novels, the line separating rape from the rest is sometimes blurry.

    Someone quoted MGA earlier, one of those rapes in the novel is controversial :
    - The MC is supposed to be engaged with the girl but doesn't truly have any intention toward her.
    - The girl, learning that, doesn't want to marry him, so she drug him and try to have one of her friends rape him, so she'll be the one to marry him instead.
    - The MC learning that afterward and not completely lucid because of the drug, stop her friend from raping him, and he end up having sex with her instead.

    So :
    - The girl is the one who drugged him, she tried to have someone rape him, but because of the drug (she gave him) he lost control and ended up having s*x with her instead...

    The question is then: who raped who exactly ?
    She didn't want to have sex with him, neither did he want to have sex with her.
    She is the one who caused it to happen, so she is the one responsible.
    In the end isn't he more of a victim than her ?

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    [And for those who thinks that men can't be raped by women, you should read some more. I remember some years ago, a guy who gave a testimony of how he was raped by his wife, I don't remember exactly how, but it was something like, she drugged him (aphrodisiacs) and tied him to a chair (or bed - don't remember), as for the rest, you can probably guess by yourself...]
     
  11. Jake1456

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    i think i heard somewhere that just because you have a boner doesn't mean it is consent
     
  12. Cutter Masterson

    Cutter Masterson Well-Known Super-Soldier

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    It all depends. If the novel was based in a Medieval landscape. Than things like rape, pillage and burning is the norm for an invading army.
    https://www.quora.com/When-did-coun...ed-over-to-paying-them-salaries-to-fight-wars
    History is written by the victors. I don’t want to say anything bad about people, but it is very naive to think people always have good intentions. After all we all know where good intentions lead you to. Humanity is rift with sins. From lust to greed. Do you know what country was the most advanced in the 1940? Germany. And what were the Germans doing at the time? They were creating massive genocidal death camps. For the most advanced civilization on the planet at the time. You would think they would move above the piety thoughts of man and create a utopian society. In a way they did, but instead of peace and love. They started a world war.
    So in the end good or advance civilization don’t mean anything when talking about humanity. Even today it still happens. Hurting others is never okay. Forcing people to do things is wrong. Sadly humanity can justify almost any evil act. One of my favorite quotes goes like this “Evil triumphs, when good men do nothing”. It’s troubling to see it in literature, but you can’t understand the light without the darkness. You can’t enjoy a story without struggling, but personally I could do without the rape angle. In most stories the MC needs a reason to fight and rape as a cause or effect is understandable reasons to take action.
    From a male point of view. I can’t enjoy rape stories. It’s to awkward and would create a lot of guilt. Besides the victims of such action are forever change, usually not in a good way. Every time a rape happens another pure white light dims. It is tragic and harmful for any future relationship. Sadly this is true in RL too.

    At least that’s what I think.
     
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  13. Asf

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    Well its not just the male MC that rapes.
    I heard a big portion of the novel here with female MC also include rape/ being raped.
    So maybe its because authors just love rape/ being raped.
     
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  14. asriu

    asriu fu~ fu~ fu~

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    imo
    failed drama
    similar with failed romance portrayed on most stories~
    maybe it is to show how bad thing can happen on world where jungle rule almost dominate da thing(xuanhuan thingy or dark side of JP story)
    well that of course exclude ero story
     
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    So R*** is not okay, sure, I can understand that sentiment.

    Now, what about murder, genocide, theft, torture, etc? You'll find all this stuff in most of the novels on this site in one form or another.

    Once you say no to one you have to say no to all the others too. You'd better stop reading chinaman novels completely lest you become a hypocrite.
     
  16. alone1player

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    Okey but mc is not projector justice
     
  17. Wick

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    It's because author have fantasy about how to rape someone but he don't dare do it because of law. Lol
     
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  18. Sruthi Gudivada

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    Most cn romance novels start on a rape, she is either being raped by the ml or almost raped because some jealous bitch tried to frame the mc
     
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    Oh a new: "Omg, so much rape!!!" thread. Can we just make a pinned topic?

    First off I don't read those novels and it doesn't matter to me if you do; but it exists. Yes there are jp and cn light and web novels that have a lot of rape, ntr, humiliation, racism and poor characterization of females in them. There is a thing called author self gratification. They like to live out their deluded fantasies in word form (look at Re:Monster).

    Is that all novels? No. But if there are hundreds of thousands of works, expect many crap works, and works you fine distasteful. It's part of life... Why? Research a bit into human nature, sociology, cultural differences, and the fact that people write what they want (#self-gratification). Asking that on a forum is a form of re-enacting Pandora's Box. We forum-goers might be amused debating or trolling your topic on your loss of innocence, but luck to you if you expect the meaning of life to drop in your lap.

    Move on and put them in a Do Not Show list so you never waste time seeing them in your feed. It's a nice site feature. Also tags exist to know what to expect.
     
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  20. Pau

    Pau Useless Hamster

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    I think there was already treads about "why was there so much rape". :hmm:

    Well, I don't know why is it and can only speculating that maybe it was author's fetish.
    Anyway, not all of them so bad just because a rape scene.
     
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