Spoiler Death Is The Only Ending For The Villain

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  1. Gumiho

    Gumiho Villainess Connoisseur ❤

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    XD As I said I'll see eventually. This is where I'm at with the situation nonetheless.

    And if they didn't check her for such a reason despite being accused of attacking a bunch of nobility and attempting to assassinate the crown prince (Who at the time they should know full well was poisoned) AND the hunting stuff was going on near the palace since the prince was hosting the whole thing :'DDDDD It's quite the jump for me to believe nobody at basically the royal courts can do a weapons search X'DDDD sdjfhskfjhs
     
  2. InsaneStuffedAnimals

    InsaneStuffedAnimals So silly goofy, quirky and different

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    this thread has really slowed down now that we've all read all of the novel
     
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    I m seriously crying whole the time while reading the manhwa seriously the girl really gone with so much shits in her every life truly a gem as a fl she is. I like how she easily don't swayed away with little love from those who hurt her from spoilers I like the part when she said she don't care about Derrick and said kill him and when she rejected the necklace but seriously hope for eclipse where ever he is he lives bright and loving life he is surely the most poor one he dont have family or any house to return as pene stated he is young and immature to understand many things so no hatred towards him as character after all he received every thing from pene after being slave and wants her forever with him which is his selfishness but what ever the story is good.
     
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    hjnffnjh Well-Known Member

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    It overtook WMMAP with just over 20 chapters in the manhwa.
     
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    Well, I would prefer the art of SBAPOD yet DITOEFTV's plot is really good, at least for me. The character's development is surprisingly well-written, the storyline was arranged perfectly, and is not as rambling as the other story- when Gyeoeul wrote the story she had already specify the ending, so there are none of the profuse detail. It's probably one of the best novel I would ever read, honestly :sushi_singing: I'm still so attached to it after 4 months huh...
     
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  6. cdramsdell

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    I just started reading this a few days ago and I want to thank everyone who has put their effort into this novel!

    I love reading everything everyone has to say and im addicted!

    Im just a little confused because it seems so much happens in between where this chapter above starts and the previous one.

    Because the other translations are no longer available, I cant get caught up on what happened in between here.

    Can anyone fill in the blanks for me from when Vinter sent over the diamond mine contract to penelope while she was at the dukedom and when she suddenly has magic and is in a cave with Callisto?!
     
  7. LaDyViL

    LaDyViL New Member Staff Member

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    Reminder, this is a spoiler thread. You can discuss the novels, the spoilers and the story but refrain from straying too far.

    Do NOT ask for places to read the translation here.
    Do NOT ask for PM or DM here.
    Do NOT respond to such requests, as you might be temporarily banned along with the person who asked. This temporary ban might lasts from a day to a week.

    Thanks.
     
  8. almira48

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    is there a side story where derick confess his love for pene..??
     
  9. Cecilliarustcle

    Cecilliarustcle Well-Known Member

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    all the characters are honestly the best but Penelope is the top and cool, I really admire penelope.
    She's actually uses her brain to think fast and precise, even the most amazing thing is that she lied to the crown prince with an expression of innocence and helplessness (if it was someone like me I would probably mess things up even before Yvonne came)
     
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    Hi guys, I don't know if it's just me but someone here said that the novel was already fully translated and there were links of it that directs to wattpad. But every time I press, it just tells me that the story is not available. Does that mean the translation is gone?
     
  11. Cielo1989

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    EVERYTHING WAS DELETED...
    even if the author give us her permission to translate her work....life is so sad....
     
  12. Red and Mad

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    Hey guys!
    I just found this web page: https://namu.wiki/w/악역의 엔딩은 죽음뿐/등장인물

    It's like a DOEV wiki and it has some interesting points like (I'm going to quote):
    • Vinter has the role of the reset button in the game: "In the hidden ending of normal mode, after running away from Yvon and reaching the Mirror of Truth, they finally found out that Penelope, whom they killed terribly, was the descendant of an ancient wizard and the only person who fought against Leila. When I brought Leila to the duke's house during the coming-of-age ceremony, it became the beginning of all catastrophes, so I shed tears of remorse and cast the time return magic. Whenever Penelope died, he kept trying to retrace his time. The role of the reset button in the game". (This is fucking ironic because during Penelope's encounter with Callisto in the labyrinth garden, she was desperate to find the button ... only to end up running away and meeting Vinter "the reset button")
    • The meaning of the purple rose is eternal love: "Whenever he returns, he will love Penelope in that episode. Imperfect love: he cannot remember what happened before his return, so he continues to be deceived by Leila and suspects Penelope, leading her to her death. Eventually, he regret later and return again. He never remembers what happened before his return, so he always loved Penelope after he died, and whenever he returned, he would love Penelope forever"
    • In the korea fandom Pepelope's nickname is Pepe and Callisto's is Kalli (about the others does not say)
    • About Penelope and Callisto's relationship: "The two are similar in that they have lived in and are friendly in the middle. Because of the many similarities, they understood each other and became close, but ironically, because of the excessive resemblance of the inner side, they almost went wrong once in the middle. They both don't trust others well and don't open their sincerity, so they're reluctant to move forward in close relationships"
    • About MC and Real Penelope: "It's easy to understand if you think of it as a relationship between the Holy Ghost and the Golden Fairy in the series. The fragment from the soul that is the source has its own ego, so it cannot be said to be the same person, but it is not completely another person. The fragment (our MC) is part of the whole (real Penelope), but the whole (real Penelope) cannot be the fragmente (our MC)"
    T̶h̶e̶s̶e̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶i̶n̶t̶s̶ ̶I̶ ̶t̶h̶o̶u̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶l̶o̶o̶k̶e̶d̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶e̶r̶e̶s̶t̶i̶n̶g̶,̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶s̶t̶o̶l̶e̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶l̶e̶ ̶a̶t̶t̶e̶n̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶T̶H̶E̶ ̶T̶H̶E̶O̶R̶Y̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶K̶o̶r̶e̶a̶n̶ ̶f̶a̶n̶d̶o̶m̶ ̶h̶a̶s̶ ̶a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶C̶a̶l̶l̶i̶s̶t̶o̶.̶ ̶P̶r̶e̶v̶i̶o̶u̶s̶l̶y̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶u̶m̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶h̶a̶d̶ ̶a̶l̶r̶e̶a̶d̶y̶ ̶b̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶d̶i̶s̶c̶u̶s̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶b̶r̶a̶i̶n̶w̶a̶s̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶m̶a̶l̶e̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶t̶a̶g̶o̶n̶i̶s̶t̶s̶,̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶o̶r̶y̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶I̶N̶S̶A̶N̶E̶ ̶(̶I̶'̶m̶ ̶g̶o̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶q̶u̶o̶t̶e̶ ̶a̶g̶a̶i̶n̶)̶:̶
    • "̶D̶u̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶n̶a̶t̶u̶r̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶a̶i̶n̶w̶a̶s̶h̶i̶n̶g̶,̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶d̶i̶g̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶l̶o̶o̶p̶h̶o̶l̶e̶s̶ ̶o̶r̶ ̶s̶e̶c̶r̶e̶t̶ ̶d̶e̶s̶i̶r̶e̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶i̶n̶d̶,̶ ̶C̶a̶l̶l̶i̶s̶t̶o̶ ̶h̶a̶d̶ ̶n̶o̶ ̶r̶o̶o̶m̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶d̶i̶g̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶.̶ ̶U̶n̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶E̶a̶s̶y̶ ̶M̶o̶d̶e̶,̶ ̶L̶e̶i̶l̶a̶'̶s̶ ̶b̶r̶a̶i̶n̶w̶a̶s̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶d̶i̶d̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶C̶a̶l̶l̶i̶s̶t̶o̶,̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶ ̶r̶e̶l̶i̶e̶v̶e̶d̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶b̶u̶r̶d̶e̶n̶s̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶o̶t̶ ̶c̶l̶o̶s̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶P̶e̶n̶e̶l̶o̶p̶e̶.̶ ̶I̶n̶ ̶f̶a̶c̶t̶,̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶q̶u̶e̶s̶t̶i̶o̶n̶a̶b̶l̶e̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶a̶i̶n̶w̶a̶s̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶e̶d̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶n̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶E̶a̶s̶y̶ ̶M̶o̶d̶e̶.̶ ̶A̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶w̶n̶e̶r̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶r̶i̶g̶i̶n̶a̶l̶ ̶s̶t̶e̶e̶l̶ ̶m̶e̶n̶t̶a̶l̶i̶t̶y̶,̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶d̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶s̶p̶e̶c̶u̶l̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶h̶e̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶p̶r̶e̶t̶e̶n̶d̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶a̶i̶n̶w̶a̶s̶h̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶y̶m̶p̶a̶t̶h̶i̶z̶e̶d̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶L̶e̶i̶l̶a̶,̶ ̶s̶p̶e̶e̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶p̶u̶r̶p̶o̶s̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶e̶m̶p̶i̶r̶e̶'̶s̶ ̶d̶e̶m̶i̶s̶e̶"̶
    Edit on 16/04/2021: They removed the last point, leaving only the fact that Callisto was resistant to brainwashing. I already scratched it lol
    Edit on 01/02/2022: What is in scratched is not true and I have already made a post explaining the point well, please read it: https://forum.novelupdates.com/thre...g-for-the-villain.97486/page-128#post-6828769
     
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  13. Cecilliarustcle

    Cecilliarustcle Well-Known Member

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    I feel sad for the real Penelope, so bad when she failed and died, everyone just realized and loved her. They all hope penelope is back, it's so bad.
    Did the real penelope have any memories of her first life? so that she held her breath and killed her emotions? if true it is very sad

    For Callisto I also realized when he and Penelope an island (I forgot the name of the island) he told penelope about childhood being brainwashed to not trust anyone.
    So it can be concluded that he doesn't love Yvonne and maybe he doesn't know it's Leila either, he just needs the name Eckart to become emperor
     
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    Can someone give me a link to official Kakao novel page. (Not manhwa)
     
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    Callisto is fairly ruthless and bloodthirsty. While engaged to Yvonne, (most likely just for the Eckart name to become emperor because a slay king like him could not possibly be into such a vapid little flake, he would have viewed her as an asset to protect and would not have taken it well if someone endangered said asset and his chances of getting the throne. Original Penelope would not have appealed to him or been able to gain his trust like Version 2 Pennelope due to her immaturity and rashness. Plus he would have needed to put on a show for the brainwashed duke and his sons. The duke does not like Callisto to begin with.
     
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    Eiidachan Well-Known Member

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    Can someone give me the link to watch the trailer of the manhwa? I forgot which page of the thread the link is.
     
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    Is this:blobsmilehappy:: https://page.kakao.com/home?seriesId=52654302&orderby=asc

    Is this:blobsmilehappy::
     
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    If I remember correctly, it was explained more or less (but I didn't understand it very well) when Yvonne talks to Penelope in her room before trying to brainwash her. Yvonne said this:
    It seems that, after all, the real Penelope did remember everything that happened in her previous lives :blobsad:

    Ah yes, thanks... I remember that, he said he did not trust anyone but I did not remember it so well.

    That's a very good point.
    When I read the theory my mind exploded:blobdizzy:
    Even if is just a theory, it seems to indicate that Leila saw the real Penelope as an obstacle to her plans and Callisto, taking the opportunity, severely punished her only to win Leila's favor.
    However, theory is theory.
    Edit (2021): This theory no longer appears in the namu wiki article!

    Also, I really feel pity for both Penelopes, but more for the real one because she was totally a martyr:blobsad:. Somehow she reminds me of Gregor Samsa (The Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka)

    By the way, the next episode of the manhwa we will finally see this punishment that the real Penelope received in the chapter 40:
    I hope this time there is no censorship or omissions, I want to see how the artist will draw that scene:blobcat_hyper:
     
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  20. Cecilliarustcle

    Cecilliarustcle Well-Known Member

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    wow. very detailed, thank you for answering my question.
    I'm always waiting for the manhwa updates all the time and it looks like the artist is starting to speed it up (by combining Chap 39 & 40 novels)