I'm in agreement with you. The MC's strategy for happiness is derived by inflicting abuse on the FL in the hopes that the Duke will suffer humiliation. Now, I do try to avoid stories without a HEA (happily ever after) because I'm a sensitive goober and life is hard enough. It takes a really immature and self-centered person to heap abuse onto a women because she is related to someone he hates. Rather than manning up and dealing with the Duke, he targets the FL because he's afraid of the Duke. That's what bullies do, which is not the act of a real man. So he ends up regretting that he victimized the FL. So what! Who cares!? Then the FL takes him back?! In Heeron, the author seems to have corrected this error in judgment because the Emperor lives in regret after losing the FL because of abuse and neglect. Justice is served, but not in this story.
But his method is wrong, he could simply ignored her, treated her like she is invisible. No one expect him to love her or even sleep with the FL, he is not obligated to. Is it really a smart move to humiliate her in public every single time? He could take as many concubines as much as he want, but does it necessary to rub it in the FL faces, asking her to prepare the banquet welcoming his concubine when he himself the one who took away all the FL authority as the Empress, not allowing her to even host a tea party? If the FL was a bit smarter, she could use the victim card to gain sympathy from the public. And as if is not enough, every time he met her in private, either they met coincidentally or him seeking her out, he hurled at her all kind of abusive word, what for? He is not a great schemer, it's just an immature brat venting his anger and hatred at the weak daughter because he can't touch the fucking father. He is frustrated when she didn't show much reaction no matter how much he insulted and degraded her, so when he finally see the FL faces distorted in pain, it gave him intense joy. That's what a bully does. I dunno, if you read the novel or only read the spoiler, the matter is not about him treating her coldly, is about him abusing her verbally and emotionally, even if her mother wasn't held hostage, even if she isn't abused by her father, no one deserved to be treated as such just because the sin of their father. The FL already live like she is dead, not getting involved in politic or internal palace affair, she never complained or anything, it was the ML who bothered someone who just sit still and do nothing. The FL herself said, in the duke house, her body got beaten black and blue but still she want to live, but the imperial palace is another kind of hell, it was her soul and spirit that got crushed by the ML that she really want to gave up on everything if it wasn't for her mother.
Okay, i understand all those things you trying to point out. It is not that i disagree with your statement. But, i am talking from another angle here. I will put my argument here, but take a note that, my argument is just on this topic : why I don't think ML deserved to be hated. Please don't drag this argument with another issue And for you to get what i am trying to say in this case, let us take few examples of all those male lead who treated the villainess like a trash No one complain about it, no one was there to even defend those villainess receiving that kind of treatment. The readers even encourage ML/FL doing that, because it makes them look strong. Because from readers point of view : that villainess deserve all those hatred Look at this example : Hugo from Lucia, what did the ML said to his ex lover named Sofia when that woman try to beg for his love once again? He said something similar to this : "if someone messed up with me, they will pay with their life". Isn't a death threat too much for that?? Why no one complain about his attitude? Because they are more focus on the fact that Hugo treat Lucia like someone special while act arrogant to other woman. The purpose is to highlight how special ML treated the FL. He is ruthless to other, while treating his precious Lucia like a fragile glass. When Anita spying on Lucia, Hugo made Anita's business went bankrupt, just to exaggerate how someone can go down if they messed up with his woman. But again, no one tried to think from Anita's(later become main villain bcs what Hugo did) point of view. Why does she deserved to go bankrupt just because she keep an eye on Lucia, she doesn't even do any harm to her yet, but no one think Hugo was going too far. Why? Because from reader perspective, she is the VILLAINESS, just like how this novel ML think about the FL And compare to that kind of trashy attitude, i still find find ML of this novel is more human (not that he is not guilty at all) But i still find him understandable because of his circumstances, where he thought that FL is as the same side as her trashy father. Moreover, thank to the CURSE FL not able to tell him the truth about the real situation, that is why i think he doesn't deserve that hatred And if someone said that ML is bad because of he is abusive with his words,,, Then what about novel like Death is the Only Ending for the Villainess? Doesn't The crown prince (which is the ML) is also crazy to his opponent? He even can easily kill someone that he assumed can threaten his life. From this point of view, reader can understand that the crown prince is just trying to survive Why can we apply the same thing with this ML, come on, he also just trying to survive here. He doesn't want "the villain" (a k.a FL) to take advantage by producing an heir to the throne, that is why he bring another woman (he doesn't even sleep with another woman, he just make it look like that). If someone said that he is too much by using abusive words, don't you think that MAYBE this ML can also suspect FL as a woman who act like a SAINT and pretend to be nice while hiding a dagger in her sleeves? Is is possible if ML think that FL trying to manipulate him by acting nice?? If ML think that way, doesn't it make sense if he use abusive words so that the "villain" had no room to deceive him?? (note : i am not saying that abusive words is ok to use in daily life, but this is just novel anyway) For God sake, this ML doesn't have any idea about FL real circumstances, let alone her mother circumstances. Why everyone expecting him to be God that knows everything that is happening?????? I have read many novel like that in this quarantine, but those other male leads who did something similar didn't get this kind of hatred like this novel ML. Why? It is all about PERSPECTIVE honey. If only reader can give a chance to look what situation looks like from this novel's ML point of view, again i must point this out again : he saw FL as Duke's tool/ally, in the other words, in his eyes, she is an ENEMY no matter how nice she treat him. In his eyes she is someone that as cunning as the duke is. He must say mean words so he doesn't look weak in front of someone who he saw as an enemy (a.k.a the Duke and the FL) From other male leads point of view their enemy a.k.a villain/villainess deserved that kind of treatment. Why can't we apply same treatment to this circumstances? If that is not enough arguments, let us talk about all those ML who treated the villainess like human being despite knowing how dangerous they are. What readers usually call them? They were called WEAK, why? Because they treated the villain like human being, just like what readers in this forum hope how ML should treat FL. Isn't it fascinating that we can say the opposite words just because of different perspective? So again : it is all about perspective. We can say someone deserved to be treated certain ways because from our point of view they were evil, but on the other side, someone must be treated with utmost respect if from our point of view they were nice and clean I hope you get what i am trying to say here This thing called "put ourselves in other people shoes" can also benefit us to wisely reacting in real life issues Thankyou for letting me share my opinion, and by the way, you don't have to agree with everything i said, it is just we can have different opinion about same issue
OMG YES YES, your opinion is how I actually will tell ppl why I like this, (not entirely, i kinda dont like the ending, bcs tbh i want her dead. Might sound extreme) we can tell just how psychologically messedddd up the (main) characters were. And i'd say, the author succeed in portraying each character. Why? they made readers couldnt understand the actions of the characters, how could they acted like that as if it couldnt be accepted logically.
Are you seriously blaming the FL right now? I kinda understand your point but Ml doesn't deserve to be happy. Not has in taking away his happiness but he doesn't get to move on have kids and strat some fresh new start. Even if you rationalise his actions he only stopped treating her badly and regretted his actions beacuse she was his first love. If she wasn't he really wouldn't be putting an effort in his apology. And BTW if you think he deserve a second chance or if you think we shouldn't hate on him that much tell me why when FL decided to leave him he pulled the lowest trick ever and attempted suicide. Thier relationship is build of SO many lies and deceptions
I'm referring to another female lead not this one. It was comparison going on between two characters. ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ Guys stop digging my old convos i even forgot about this novel, i don't want to return here. Whyyyyyy. Just skip them over pls or report, don't quote me.
I was just asking a question. Wasn't trying to be offence. And I actually didn't dig up your old comment beacuse u recently just started reading this manhua so has I go along the spoilers I see comments which are old.
I was just saying it in general. I've been quoted a few times before. Oh no, I'm not. I've read the novel, more like skimmed to know the ending. I've been here long ago, in nov last and that comment was even older if i remember well, anyway, no hard feelings. That was said in general. Happy reading!
I can say that ths story is not suitable for depress and stress readers. Warning please don't read if you already depress its making worst I'm telling you.. and also to those have anger issue.. dont ever read ths. Don't expect for any 'SATISFACTION' Don't expect for any 'REVENGE' Don't expect for 'Second ML' because ths SRS doesn't exist in ths story.. and you will just end up being frustrated. If you are reader that already used in different kinds of masochist characters ths is for you. And for me I'm already depres.. so I'm not going to read.. ths it's not really good for my currently mental health.
The rape didn't happen even in the raw Korean novel (especially how Conservative the country itself is towards rape concepts) ... Most korean readers also tried to clear the misunderstanding, because if it did happen God knows how much most of the native readers will attack the author... The guards were only talking about it and making fun of it but the rape itself didn't happen since it was only used to bring fear and she was stabbed immediately after it
Anyone.. it's oot, but is there novel similar to this?.. I like the plot, taking depression as the main issues here is a new thing to me, so I want to read more novel similar to this. I rarely read angst and tragedy, eventho i've read some, none engaged me like this one. So, if you have a list of novel that make you frustrate and crying, please kindly recommend them to me. Thanks
"A novel that make you frustated and cry"? Have you read "My Fiance is in love with my little sister"?
Maann, this is the first novel I read when i was curious with tragedy and angst. Till now I even cannot finish it at all. It was my first attempt to try reading angst stories, and this novel kinda giving me a fatal wound. That's why I said I rarely read angst, it was due to this novel *sigh* I can handle the pain, but I never can accept sad ending. I just want MC and ML reconcile and have their lovely ending. And TTIWYD gave me the ending I wanted. It was a painstaking journey, but it's paid by a happy ending.
I disagree. Yes, ML did many bad things to her but he still deserves to be happy. People can change. Let him change, as long as he regret hurting the FL.
Let's see if he can actually change beacuse as long as the FL is with him he is gonna treat people badly and treat her good cause " love " he will get jealous if she looks or talks to other guys and let's not forget he is probably gonna let someone follow her around as if she doesn't have her own people to protect her. He can be happy or said just not with thw FL by his side
I might purchase the books just to support the author,I like the ML,I like the FL and I like that there isn't 2ML and we get a happy ending. Added to my list of top light novels: 1.On the emperors lap 2.There were times I wished you were dead 3.Abandoned empress 4.I won't accept your regrets