Spoiler Return of the Mount Hua Sect (화산귀환)

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Hwasan in Jongnam Robes. Baekcheon cosplaying as Jin Geumryong. Hyeyeon saying Muryangsubul instead of Amitabha Buddha with wig in his shaved head.

. Hi, xoxo.

 

Good for Baekcheon. He was pining for Jongnam just a couple of chapters ago, so this could be a little treat for him.

 

He was shedding tears while beggars whisper among themselves how arrogant looking he is, but still deserves it given that 'he' will be the next Sect Leader of Jongnam.

 

I second this

 

Addressing some misunderstanding about the name of Cheongmun in the manhwa.

I know that most of us are come here after reading the webtoon, including me we are victims. So I just wanna say that there's a mistake webtoon translator did regarding doho and title, which causes a lot of confusion.

You may have seen this image from the webtoon. This is the cycle of doho (taoist name), that are given to the members of the main sect. Each taoist sect has different doho, but Hwasan follows the cyle of Hyeon - Un - Baek - Cheong - Myeong. Notice that each generation has the same first character and only different in the 2nd character? That's doho.



The name of the 13th Generation leader, Cheongmyeong's Sahyeong or "Brother" is Cheongmun. Not "Cheon" because the doho of the 13th generation at that time is "Cheong". CHEON IS AN MTL MISTAKE. And no spaces between the two characters as doho is not a surname.

Then you may ask, "So what is Jangmun?" Jangmun is NOT a name. I repeat, it is NOT a name. This is the mistake in webtoon translation. Jangmun is just a title/a way to call the leader of the sect. Example, Cheongmyeong usually calls Cheongmun as "Jangmun Sahyeong". Jangmun = Sect Leader, Sahyeong = Martial Brother or just Brother. So he essentially calls him "Brother Sect Leader", which webtoon translates to "Brother Jangmun" instead.

So, hope that clears things up.

 

And jangmun sahyung is used by the disciple with the same distribution like cheong myung and Cheong Mun

 

THANK YOU!!!! PREACH!!!! SAY IT AGAIN FOR THOSE IN THE BACK!!!!!

DARN IT WEBTOON!!!!! MISLEADING SO MANY PEOPLE!!!!!

If you're gonna TL to english, TL the whole thing to senior brother sect leader.
If you're gonna leave it in korean, then leave the whole thing in korean and just call him Jangmun Sahyeong!!!

WHAT'S THIS GROSS HALF HALF APPROACH WEBTOON!!!!!!

Also i would like to point out another mistranslation done by the official webtoon....... they don't differentiate between Sasuk and Sahyeong ...... im not even surprised at this point. Cheongmyeong in the official webtoon calls both Baekcheon and Yoon Jong/Jo Geol "senior brother" ...... which isnt the case in the raws. It's like calling your dad your brother. That's how big a gap there is between disciples generations

Sasuk = martial uncle. Used for addressing a male 1 generation ahead of you. (So what Cheongmyeong would call Baekcheon, or what Baekcheon would call Unam)

Sahyeong = martial brother. Used for addressing a male in the same generation as you and with greater seniority than you. (So what Cheomgyeong would call Jo Geol and Yoon Joon or what Baeksang would call Baekcheon)

And for anyone curious, here are the rest of the terms:
사숙조 (師叔祖) sasukjo (martial great uncle) - What Cheongmyeong would call Unam/Ungeom (older male 2 generations ahead)
사고조 (師姑祖) sagojo (martial great aunt)

사숙 (師叔) sasuk (martial uncle) - What Cheongmyeong would call Baekcheon (older male 1 generation ahead)
사고 (師姑) sago (martial aunt) - What Cheongmyeong would call Yu Iseol (older female 1 generation ahead)

사형 (師兄) sahyeong (martial senior brother) - What Cheongmyeong would call Yoon Jong or Jo Geol. (older male in the same generation)
사저 (師姐) sajeo (martial senior sister)

사제 (師弟) saje (martial junior brother) - What Yoon Jong would call Cheongmyeong (younger male in same generation)
사매 (師妹) samae (martial junior sister) - What Baekcheon would call Yu Iseol (younger female in same generation)

사질 (師侄) sajil (martial nephew / niece) - What Baekcheon/Yu Iseol would call Cheongmyeong/Yoon Jong/Jo Geol (younger male/female 2 generations down)

By the way when I say "younger" i mean this purely by sect seniority and not physical age. There's another character who joins the Cheongs in ch 200 of the novel and they call Cheomgyeong Sahyeong despite being physically older than him because sect seniority is all that matters here.

 

It's been such a long time but I'm still bothered, was there a timeskip of 2 years during Yangtze river arc (chap 1014) cuz it drives me crazy, I need to know the character ages and while reading it there was no mentioned timeskip nor even a 'break' I guess after all the events to now they are older but I'm still bothered hahahahahah (idk how to insert an image but it's on the wiki)

Does anyone have the link on where to read chapter 1480 ? I know on naver They have 1487 or so chapters lol. If it's different to disclose it here can someone dm the link (tho idk how it works lmaoo)

 

Ah yet another case of common mis-information. If you got this from the wiki, you just got bamboozled. Whoever did the English Mount Hua wiki probably just copied it from the korean namuwiki which pulled Cheongmyeong's age out of a hat. I spent a while chasing their "chapter references" and my conclusion is it's BS.

Here's a proper time line on CM's age and time skips in this series:

How old is Cheongmyeong?:

• ch 1 - he starts out at 15
• ch 118 - 2 year training time skip after the conference
• approx ch 250 - 6 month training time skip to prepare for the murim tournament
• As of ch 500 Q&A - author confirms he’s 18
• approx ch 850 - another 3 year training time skip

so hes about 21 in the most recent chapters. Could be a little bit more since the months flow naturally in the series. There's no extra timeskip in the maehwa island arc.

 

Hi guys! Can anyone please shoot me a DM on how to find the Korean raws? Please help, a girl has been trying to solve the mystery in this thread to no avail

 

Actually, for the peeps looking for a raw supply--, ahem, Voldemort, have you guys ever thought of checking out the very first post of the thread aka the curator's post? It even has its own blue headline, so really, not that hard to find smh try harder guys Updates regularly too, so once you find that, your food source is secured

P/s: The need to scream, ahem, discuss with fellow readers about the latest sweet potatoes is noted tho, so if you feel like it, you know who to dm shush this is definitely not me throwing clearsongwillow, uncopyright and etherealmn under the bus

 

I have a question, do you guys think Tang Great-Grandpa is actually aware that CM is PBSS reincarnated? It was sort of left ambiguous - I know that he mistook CM as the real PBSS when he was senile and later on hinted that he knows CM is not PBSS but he's still a part of Mount Hua. It was his reaction during the sword naming that left me puzzled.

 

Can someone spoil yu Iseol background

 

I think he just recognized that CM was the same person but in his mental fog I dont think he thought as far as reincarnation etc. Just my opinion.

Also, in regards to CM identity reveal.... circa 1490+...

Spoiler: AAHHHHHHhhhhhHHHHHHHhhhHHHHhhhhhhHH.

There is so much going on right now!!! DO NOT READ RIGHT NOW IF YOU AREN'T CAUGHT UP. Wait a few days.... then you shall receive. I binged a month's worth of chapters and I can't wait on this cliffy any longer

You daily readers are another kind of masochist

Also the latest arc in general was so rad.... I was literally rolling on my bed laughing while binging. JIN DONGRYUNG WAS WORTH THE WAIT!

pretty sure its posted already somewhere, but just that her father was ex Hwasan sect member who left and regretted it

 

Please i'm begging you please spoil the chapter, i'm dying waiting for ch 1480+

Ple

Please can't you give us synopsis about what happened on ch 1480+. Pleaseeeee

 

this sentence kinda downplayed it tho,,
her father was drowning in his regret, obsessing to find the 'right' to go back to hwasan,,
iseol ended up neglected, and almost brainwashed lol

 

Guys, Cheong Myung❤️
Voldemort is back guys. It's ch 1494 now

 

Spoiler warning ⚠️
Reading the latest chapters (till 1494) show how messed up it actually was. Gupa had no intention to fight while the others went to sacrifice themselves in the 100 000 mountain... They knew that they wouldn't be able to return alive yet still went because they thought at least they'd take care of remnants of the demonic cult (which is now causing trouble 100 years later because they didn't do what they had to do) and them talking about how the demonic cult remnants only burned mount hua (from 100 000 mountain, Gangnam, yangtze river, finally the Shaanxi) and it was done on purpose to get rid of Mt.Hua......
I always hated the gupa and could understand somehow cheong myeong's anger, but seeing just a glimpse of what they did.... Damn cheong myeong is really a saint because if I had been him I would have burned to ashes all of these factions. It also takes me back to the conversation between the court and cheong myeong at around chapters 920~ about how the court isn't a hypocrite and that's why it's worse. The same goes for the old Gupa, they believe what they did is 'good' and no Matter the path, in the end it's all for the good of the world. I am not really good at expressing myself but these chapters were really good....
But just thinking about old Mt.Hua and all those who went to 100 000 makes my heart ache, they always doubted even as they fought, but they still went and died because it was better than a world ruled by the demonic cult. But what if they knew those blockheads didn't even wipe out the remnants but even let them burn mount hua. They drove them to the extinction and suffering for 100 years. They don't know what gratitude is.
And honestly I'm surprised at how call CM is, and even how he spoke about mistake. Even if he couldn't do anything about them going to 100 000 peak, the fact he didn't help mount hua about the remnants of the demonic sect, especially since they knew that that there were only children left ... But I do understand, the demonic sect is scary and they would have probably been wiped out if the helped mount hua, but can CM accept that ? I know CM is rational but can he speak about mistake when in the end it was mount hua who suffered. Or maybe because he showed remorse about how he couldn't even die because he is afraid of meetings those who died, those who they sacrificed. I remember that CM said he wouldn't be this angry if Just one of the Gupa's apologized or thanked them, even if informally. Maybe that wouldn't make the death of his brothers dog death, is that why ?
I'm just rambling hahaha i guess need to discuss with someone
Also I wonder when the identity reveal will happen, I didn't have expectations for this one but it would have been a smooth way to talk about it, they'll probably never know till the meet the heavenly demon and he goes ''long time no see bro"
On another note what is exactly the heavenly demon?? A 'demon' ? A 'god' ? A mystical being? Or a human. He certainly didn't look human tho
Edit: I reread the chapters and realized that the old man wasn't the ark of the beggars, but the 'heir' I guess that's why CM wasn't that angry and said that all humans make mistakes

 

We already have a mini identity reveal this chapter, 1494. Cheongmyeong told Hyeonpung Gae that he was Geomjon. Sadly, it is only them who heard because Cheongmyeong spread ki around the room to block any sound from leaking.

Right, right. Gramps is literally a saint because he prioritizes raising Hwasan back again instead of doing revenge.

The group already knew, so is Cheongmyeong. They are listening to Hyeonpung Gae talked about the past in 1493, thus Songbaek's reaction is one of disbelief and denial knowing how shitty Gupa is, especially Jongnam.

As for those who died fighting, I hope when they meet those previouse shitty leaders of Gupa in the underworld, they will beat them down.

It is not even about how scary Magyo are. Those Gupashit was just calculating benefits from the start to finish. If they didn't, why didn't they send atleast the bare minimum of some of their disciples in Daesan? Why was it pure Hwasan who goes and become the death squad.

Cheongmyeong already speak about mistakes and console Hyeonpung Shingae at 1494. He said that everybody makes mistakes. Doing mistakes. Denying things. Because that was what humans are. But in all of this, Cheongmyeong said that Hyeonpung Shingae was wrong about one thing. He shouldn't try to do something alone because he just thought no one will understand. See how Saint, Cheongmyeong is.

Even when Hyeongpung Shingae said that he averted his eyes on the crumbling Hwasan because of guilt, Gramps didn't get angry because he understands Hyeonpung Shingae's pain.

The frigging Baldie version 1 just badly gaslight Hyeonpung Shingae. if only someone who was good with whiplashing words was present during those time, like Gramps or Baekcheon, I bet the situation will be different. Alas, all of them are just Gupashit.

 

I know that's why it's infuriating, I know they let them burn mount hua on purpose, it's not that they didn't help the fallen mount hua but pushed it to it's destruction even if everyone in mount hua died for the world. It's not only about helping mt.hau the demonic remnants are literally their enemies. But considering all things CM must have know everything so that's why he was so calm

And about the sinner part, it really hurts because thinking about it CM also considers himself a sinner, because he couldn't protect mount hua.
Also when they left the room it was mentioned the beakcheon looked back then went out with a look of regret, I don't know if it's just random but I feel like Beakcheon caught on into something
(Btw I don't know how to use novel updates well so sorry for the messy answer)