Spoiler (BL) Macguffin/맥거핀

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    https://ridibooks.com/books/809022883?_rdt_sid=author&_rdt_idx=1
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    https://ridibooks.com/books/3093001011?_rdt_sid=author_books&_rdt_idx=0

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    "What kind of person do you think I am?”
    "……a stranger."
    Lee Soo-ha, who has been locked up in an unidentified facility for a long time, is dragged by strangers and meets a man one day. Lee Soo-ha, then lives with that man, he found out that he is an Omega who was sold to him, an Alpha. He is concerned about his situation where he has no heat cycle and is unable to conceive due to his abnormal physical condition, but that man doesn't care even though Lee Soo-ha is not doing his job as omega. It's just confusing to learn what a man's inside is, the hatred towards him and the often feelings of deja vu, and it's just confusing as unknown things continue to happen...

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    !WARNING! so apparently the Alpha is the Uncle and the Omega is the nephew (illegitimate son of the Uncle’s sister). It’s incest…but I’m still curious so spoilers pls:blobpeek:
     
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    Forbidden love story? I'm in. Spoilers pls.
     
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    I’m confused, so is the alpha the father of the child that we saw in chapter 6?
     
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    Does anyone have spoilers?
     
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    I’m sorry, I don’t know how to hide the spoiler so:
    ⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️spoiler ahead⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️
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    They’re actually uncle and nephew. The white hair dude (forgot the name) is the illegitimate son of the alpha’s sister. He almost killed himself that’s why, at the beginning of the manwha, he was in the hospital.
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    Thanks for the info. If the main character is a illegitimate son. Who was raising him during his childhood. Also, who put him in the hospital?
     
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    MC and ML’s love was forbidden by their family and MC was incarcerated in a mental hospital for about 4 years and lost his memory. Then ML found MC and brought him back to protect him. The little kid is MC and ML’s son.

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    is MC suicidal? Why did he slit his wrist in the bathtub?
     
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    Lee Soo-ha was confined to an omega trading facility for a long time and was raised like a livestock.
    One day, a change occurs in his daily routine, and Sooha leaves the facility and is taken to an unfamiliar place by strangers and meets a man.
    The wealthy Alpha man - Joo Hae- won has a continuous physical relationship with Sooha and allows him to use money and time freely, except for regulating the time he goes out.
    Although he is an omega, his hormones are weak, so he is concerned about the cold and generous attitude of this man because Sooha is a useless omega unable to conceive.
    From the first meeting, Soo-ha felt a strange sense of rejection and deja vu from the man, and as time went on, he became anxious because he did not know the man's true intentions, and eventually moved to
    solve the question while he was away on a business trip...he finds out the Alpha man has a 4 year old son.Feeling betrayed and thinking he is going to be disposed he cut his writs.

    Hae-won is the eldest son of a chaebol family, and although he has everything as an alpha, he hates his father's restraints, so he chooses a free life and leaves the family.
    One day, his sister brings her son, Sooha, and leaves him with her brother Haewon.
    Sooha who is his nephew, a man, and even an omega, is annoying, but Hae-won's heart is drawn to him.
    On the other hand, Soo-Ha, who suffered from poverty and discrimination under her mother's indifference and incompetent father, was full of wounds. Sooha was found with his father, who hung himself, after 10 days trying to die too. He is diagnosed with cronical depression.
    However, his heart begins to move toward Hae-won, who cares for him indifferently and affectionately from time to time, and eventually breaks down the solid wall and falls in love with him.
    Hae-won intuitively senses the danger in this relationship, but it was after he had already fallen in love with his nephew.
    Sooha bewitches Haewon in an innocent and bewildering way. Eventually, during the first heat, the two of them abandon their reason and indulge each other, crossing the line of incest.
    However, as Hae-won's sister learns about the relationship between the two, the sweet daily life does not last long... Hae-won is forced to compromise with his father and marry the daughter of an influential politician in order to protect Sooha. Unable to understand this, Sooha becomes pessimistic about his situation and makes an extreme choice to make Hae-won suffer and to be unhappy (he tries to kill himself by cutting his writs). Afterwards, Sooha's mother makes him disappear and Hae-won puts all of his energy into seizing the real power of the group in order to regain him..
    After a long time has passed (4 years) Hae- won finds Sooha. His sister had hidden him in a mental hospital, but he couldn't remember Hae-won due to psychogenic memory disorder. Moreover, he was ignoring the truth by creating a defense mechanism under the delusion that he was imprisoned in the Omega concentration camp and sold to an Alpha whom he had never seen before.

    The story begins with Sooha reuniting with Haewon, adding the delusions in his head to reality, deceiving himself and even deceiving the reader...

    The writing is composed of a structure in which the present is unraveled with the first-person multiple point of view of Sooha, who was used as a McGuffin in the early stages, and then it is changed to the point of view of Haewon, and returns to the present after revealing the truth of the past.


    (The MacGuffin is what springs the characters—either the good guys or the bad guys—into action. Someone has to be after something, and there must be overwhelming odds in the way of the goal.)
     
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    Did they mention who conceived the baby?
     
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    It’s Uke and Seme baby..Seme is keeping it a secret from Uke
     
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    When did Uke become pregnant? Was the baby taken away from him before or after going into the mental hospital?
    I know their relationship isn’t easy bc of incest, family, mc’s mental health and other stuff but how is their relationship actually like? Like how do they interact with each other? Is it toxic/abusive? Do they care for each other?
    Oh also, how did ML react when Uke tried to kill himself as revenge?
    Thanks for the spoilers!
     
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    I just read the new update of its manhwa, the seme seems to have a woman, it is still part of the uke delusions? Thanks for the spoiler
     
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    He became pregnant 4 yrs ago..he was taken away from before the Seme before his mother disappeared with him..the Seme likes the Uke it’s just the Seme sucks when it comes to affection because of how his father was always with him hence the reason why Ukes mom sucks at being a mother as well their father was very strict..it’s not toxic it’s just the Uke has a lot of mental problems and in the past they loved each other it’s just they were caught by the mom so that’s when it goes down hill..when the Uke tried to Jill himself the second time he was angry because it happened again because of a women lol and Uke jumping to conclusions but its understandable because in the past when Seme was honest with him the Uke refused to believe or listen to him so he tried killing himself so this time Seme chooses to be this stern guy because no matter what he does the Uke never believes him..sorry for late reply Iv been busy with school
     
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    oh wow thats messy
     
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    Wrote a lot ecause I kinda liked this novel? It’s weird, the dark scenes really drew me in. I would love to read this again in non-MTL translation. It’s been a few months since I MTL’ed this, so I don’t remember a lot of things and might have mixed things up. Someone else correct me if I’m missing something.
    • Uke is an omega and is the illegitimate son of seme’s sister, his mother took him back to live with seme after the omega’s father committed suicide by hanging himself. Uke is extremely traumatized because he stayed in the same room with his father’s corpse and saw it rot.
    • I don’t remember why uke was sent to live with seme, but I think it’s because the mother’s and seme’s father is very strict. He wouldn’t tolerate an illegitimate child.
    • They gradually grew closer together and had a forbidden relationship until it was found out by the mom. The seme decided to follow his father’s wishes to marry someone else. He thinks this is the best way to protect uke.
    • I don’t remember if he explained this to uke, but even if he did, I think uke would still not take it well. This is because uke’s mom also left his father (the one that committed suicide) to marry someone else. Re-read that section, it looks like seme did not really explain things to uke. Here’s how the dialogue went. I paraphrased a few things:
    Uke: "Are you marrying someone else?"
    Seme: "I'll get engaged next month and get married next spring."
    Uke: "What about me?"
    Seme: "Nothing changes"
    Uke: "I don't understand."
    Seme: "You don't have to understand. That's just what you have to know."
    Uke: "I thought you loved me."
    Seme: "There are marriages without feelings. It's a common thing, you’re old enough to know that.”
    Uke: "Why do you have to get married like that?”
    Seme: "If I explain everything, would you understand? It's a necessary marriage and nothing changes. That's enough excuse. What more do you want?"
    Uke: "Don't do it. If it's that kind of marriage, you don't have to do it. I don't understand."
    Seme: "I wouldn't have done it if I didn't think I had to."
    Uke: "Please..."
    Seme: "Stop being silly. I'm tired."
    [At that moment, Lee Soo-ha's expression froze cold. The sorrow and shock of on his face was visible.]
    Seme: "Just keep this in mind. I'm doing my best so that you can be here.”
    Uke: "Are you saying it's all because of me? So you have to put up with this?”
    Seme: "Yes, so bear with it."
    Uke: "Why? Because I'm your nephew? Because I'm an omega? Because I'm a person who is sick and can't have children?"
    Seme: "You know it well. What more can I do with you like that?" [not sure if this is the correct translation, but it did say in the next line that this sentence was what broke uke's heart]
    Uke: “Do you love me?”
    Seme: "Think what you like."

    • The day after this argument, uke acted as though everything’s fine. He acted spoiled and even had sex with seme before he left for his engagement party.
    • The hurt uke had already decided to hurt seme by killing himself. He decided that his method of suicide would be slitting his wrist in the bathtub because he thinks hanging himself like his father did will leave an ugly rotting corpse.
    • When seme was driving to his engagement party, he got a call from uke congratulating him on the engagement. Btw, this whole flashback chapter was in seme’s POV. The scene went like this (again, paraphrased):
    Uke: Congratulations on your engagement, uncle.
    Uke: But I don't want you to be happy.
    [Lee Soo-ha's honest ill words made me feel pleasant. Today's engagement, as well as the marriage I'll have later, doesn't make me happy. Therefore, Lee Soo-ha's wish would come true.]
    Seme: "It was a good congratulation. Thank you."
    Seme: "I'll come back as soon as I'm done. Why don't we go for a drive. I think it would be good to have dinner together and sleep at the hotel for a day.”
    Uke: Well... I don't think so.
    Seme: "Why?"
    Uke: I have other plans.
    Seme: "What plan?"
    [Lee Soo-ha laughed once again briefly at my question.]
    Uke: I'm going into the grave.
    [For a moment, goosebumps ran on the back of my neck.]
    Seme: "……what do you mean?"
    [Lee Soo-ha's laughter grew. It's weird. It's something I've never heard before.]
    Uke: Are you flustered?
    Seme: "What are you doing.”
    Uke: Getting ready to make uncle unhappy.
    Uke: I was happy because of Joo Hae-won. To the point where I thought it was a relief that I didn't die alongside my father. But now I think I'm just as unhappy. To the point where I wish I had just died then.
    Seme: "Lee Soo-ha."
    Uke: Do you know what I thought when I saw him hanging? Oh, I'm really alone now. It was this. People say that an omega without anything will have no choice but to sell itself to an alpha to make a living. I don't have money, I don't have parents, so what can I do? But I guess I had pride in my appearance. But come to think of it, I don't want to live like that.
    Uke: So what I want to say is...….
    Uke: I hope uncle will regret it. I want you to be unhappy because of me. A lot. A lot. Ha ha...!
    [Lee Soo-ha hung up, leaving a strange laugh like an innocent child.]

    • Seme rushed back, found uke in the bloody bathtub and rushed him to the hospital. That’s where they found out he was pregnant. In the end the uke was taken away by his mother to a mental institution where he lost his memory. She also took the baby away and gave it to some other lady to raise. Seme was powerless because of the joint effort of his father and sister. He swore to get revenge on them for this humiliation and get uke back.
    • Btw, seme did not get married or get engaged to anyone else during the time he and uke were apart. I think his previous engagement was also canceled because he humiliated the other family when he did not show up at the engagement party (due to him turning the car around and rushing back home after uke's call).
    • I'm unsure about the timeline, but seme eventually managed to bring down his father and sister. His sister revealed the child's location but not uke's. Seme found his son, but his son was already attached to the woman his sister left him with and thinks the woman is his mother. Seme’s thinking about gradually separating them before uke comes back.
    • Seme corrected his son and forbid him from calling the woman “mom”, says to call her “aunt.”
    • The woman herself was quite presumptuous. She tried to act like the seme’s wife. She comes to his house unannounced on the weekend, enters his bedroom while he was sleeping to wake him up for breakfast. Seme put a stop to that quick, told her not to cross the line and reminded her that her contract is only 9 to 6 on weekdays. He regretted not ripping the child away from her immediately when he found them, now that he tries to, the child does not want to be separated from his wet nurse. So he bought them a separate mansion to live in, enrolled the child in daycare, and found someone to take care of him for half a day to gradually detach him from the wet nurse. Seme understood that the woman is a budding problem that needs to be nipped before uke comes back. Uke’s whereabouts are still unknown at this point.
    • Of course, just as seme feared, uke comes back and misunderstood the situation, which led to his second suicide attempt. After this incidence seme heartlessly got rid of the wet nurse. The boy’s new caretaker explained to uke when he came to see his child for the first time that the boy was inconsolable for a while after the wet nurse was gone, but gradually got better because seme began to come see him more often after the wet nurse was gone.
    • Uke introduced himself as seme’s friend to his son. I think the boy is 4 years old by now. They got close, and the boy eventually moved in with uke and seme. I don’t remember if he ever explained the truth to the boy by the end of the novel, or if he will ever feel ready to reveal the truth. But uke’s mental health issue was so severe that he was actually afraid to live in the same house with the boy at first because he doesn’t want the boy to see his depressive episodes. He was also worried about whether his mental illness is hereditary (because it happens to his father and then him), and worried that being around him will affect the boy. He eventually relented and the three of them began to live in the same house.
    • At the end of the novel when seme's mother asked seme to introduced uke and the child to her and her husband. Seme's dad is dying in the hospital so the mother wanted them to visit him. Seme's mother does not know why their relationship got so bad because she was kept in the dark about everything, so she doesn't know about uke's birth origin either. Seme refused her saying the next time he'll introduced his family to his father is in front of his grave.
    • So yeah, in the end we still have a happy ending. Uke's still working on his mental health.
    That's all I remember. I don't remember any cute scenes either, so hopefully someone can add to that.
     
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    How did you read it? How can i MTL this novel?
     
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    Can someone spoil the ending - or at least does anyone know if there is a HE?
     
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    Probably because there isn't any cute scenes. It's 100% angst for the maso readers
     
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    You said it's not a toxic relationship, but it's a toxic relationship. Incest is a bad thing, but there are bigger problems here. Uke's mother is a bitch who never mothered, and she's largely responsible for making Uke like this. We can ignore incest because family relationships suck. But seme marries another woman even though he knows how uke has suffered throughout his life. uke didn't have to understand this, which is something that wouldn't be tolerated anyway. Uke who has never been valued and never had a person who cares for him as he deserves. He can't trust anyone. Even his father, who was with him for years, committed suicide without thinking about him. Then he believes that someone loves him, but that man(seme) marries another woman, shaking his trust again. For a guy who already has wounds, for whatever reason, it's bound to be traumatic. After being locked up in a mental hospital for years, Seme finds him and brings him. but what's up? Seme makes mistakes again and does not explain properly to uke and does not show him affection openly. this makes uke feel insecure and underappreciated again. seme treats uke like he bought him and never speaks properly. just waiting for uke to ask him questions. uke is traumatized, committed suicide, and spent years in the hospital, but the idiot seme is incapable of speaking and still waiting for uke to ask him questions; even in such a situation. this is nonsense. uke's mother and seme, together they really ruined this kid's life.