I think the the intimate moments that That Medusa spend during engagement of this time line with Cesar has made him more obssesive towards Ari.... If you ask me this novel questions both faminist and neutral.Feminist pint if Never take novel seriously. Aria herself never justified hat act during engagement with Cesar.She called it horrible and resentful.To be honest she had 3 mental break down even when there was misunderstanding between aria was not cleared. 1.when she got fake letter from MC 2. when she went to see Alfonso 3. When she was with Alfonso in debuntate preparation You have to understand Cesar was love interest from first time line.She will definitely have same feeling after regression.Cesar has different behaviour in this time line but always show emotionally manipulative nature like touching body part , talking about love and doing emotional blackmail. Undoubtedly she will get tempted due to unfulfilled desire of first timeline.iAll those kisses was spur of moment due to different reasons.In her subconscious mind she always had feeling for Alphonso that is why She never said accepted his love. She liked it that time but at present she is hating doing all those thing with cesar.She can't remain trapped that guilt.. Aria have always given mature reaction later when she meet Cesar because she not wanted to create any issue. this never mean she has feeling for Cesar now.We can only expect the type of reaction you want from Aria like slapping when Cesar will harm Alphonso...that is always going to tip point of her tolerance Love for Alphonso is deeper than that of feeling was with Cesar.She always have been more active and serious than Alfonso in relationship after they solved their misunderstanding. She not only removed her all gaurd but started showing her cuter side.She want Cherise Alfonso without hurting him or letting any one hurt him.. I think First time line Aria had love for Cesar wich later become obssesion but in second timeline during her engagement with she started to have infactuation because of obvious reasons. To be honest even Raphael felt hurt when Aria said her dress was messed because of mutual consent between her and Cesar as sense of betrayal towards Alphonso.This acceptance later made Aria uncomfortable when she tried to show her love expression for Alphonso when they were discussiong return of Alphonso .I think this is point when she started to have massive guilt and horrible feeling for her action with Cesar during engagement.elko fake later cause emotional breakdown.because later was telling Alfonso felt sense of betrayal from her. because of this.resentment and guilt of this engagement period actually made Aria to more conscious about Alphonso..That period she behaved rude with Alphonso because of her own behaviour. Raphael has witnessed all shades of love life of Aria..love for Alphoso to betrayal for Alphonso,love of Cesar,breaking of engagement,guilt for betraying to alphonso,clearing of misunderstanding,first makeout and marriage .Pure BFF of Aria Even after knowing she once betrayed Alphonso and even having carrying feeling for Aria.went to Alphonso for asking to consider Aria after seeing her mental breakdown. Alphonso is totally different league. Isabella is actually some kind of blessings for Aria... Whatever crime she the did for harming Aria act always end up in blessing Aria Whatever good Aria do for Cesar always end up in harming Aria...
Actually I always talked about psychological impact what she did with Cesar during her engagement.... Aria is princess and future queen of this kingdom...stopping her with holding arm and Asking for affair was actually great insult to her and her relationship with Alfonoso.He really deserved a slap from her Cesar not only has obssessive,forcing and emotionally manipulative personality but he also has psychopath personality...Every kindness and good behaviour from side of Aria give him feeling that Aria loves him... Cesar has no personality to become villian..only villian part he cab play is molest Aria...Cesar is real schemer of love that he abled to manipulate schemer like Aria... To be honest Aria would have been indifferent towards Cesar but het his approach to ask an Affair was like again injuring wound she forgot...It actuall gave her memory of massive sense of betrayal towards Alfonso.. whenever she will she him always going to get trigger guilt of betrayal of towards Alfonso...Making her feel weak in confidence for her existence in her relationship... After clearing misunderstanding with Alfonso,seeing his callous and wound on hand and scar of body She already has feeling that Alfonso was always honest and determined in love with her...This actually increase her guilt for giving Cesar a chance which is forcing her think Alfonso deserve better than her..This also cause her to become possesive and concerned towards her relationship with Alfonso... Actually this is making Aria to fall in love with Alfonso more but golden rule thing is ruining her chemistry with Alfonso... Asking for affair is really too. much...At least Cesar is making her to hate him even more...Great move towards saying final goodbye to feelings for Cesar she is carrying from first time line...to be appropriate trauma she is carrying due to Cesar of first time line.... She definitely think she is not suitable for Alphonso but she is possessive towards Alphonso... Alphonso is the only person in both time to share true love, without judgeing her for anything , completely accepting her with all her faults and without accepting any thing from her in return.......
Why you are not understanding that she has no feeling for Cesar except those resentment and guilt.when Aria compare Cesar and Alphonso it is a kind of hint that She is moving away from Cesar. Aria has deepest love for Alphonso but she also have guilt of killing him in past and Betraying him for Cesar during his engagement she has disloyal feeling fir herself towards Alphonso that is why she consider herself not suitable for Alphonso.this is refelection of guilt inside her.But I think when she will help Alphonso in getting throne she will get ride of all those guilt she have for Alphonso As far Cesar of current timeline consider.She already closed her chapter of him.guilt of betraying Alphonso and resentment she is carrying because of this cesar already made her hate him.She also not want Alphonso to have misunderstanding because of these betrayal and engagement thing.She must be knowing what he did after breaking of engagement.. drinking and having sex with her looking girl.whatever He will do to get attention from her will increase hatred for him. this behaviour of toward Aria prove she is just trophy for him. Comparing Cesar with Alphonso is just sign of healing not obssession h.She will have to dump all baggage related Cesar from Heart and mind,healing is must. .
Havent found an spoilers about Ippolito's father, and his Mother story, how did she end up with the cardinal and what happened to her lover. Why was she blaming Arabella? Btw is isabella cardinal's child?
Ippolito’s father was Sir Elko’s father, I don’t know the story about him and Lucrezia, but the reason Lucrezia seduced the cardinal was to have financial security for her child and her family. She was mad at Arabella because she couldn’t run off and find her lover while she was pregnant and yes Isabella was the Cardinal’s child.
I think I have to intervene on one point: there are differing opinions on Ariane's love, but no one has touched on a very interesting point... Did Ariane "really" love Césard? This novel is very complex about the personalities of the characters and I always like to describe Ariadne's reactions to certain situations because we most often see her point of view. Some people who read the story had never understood that Césard had "raped" Ariadne, even though it is said in a half-hearted way from the first chapters. For Ariadne, this act was "normal" (if I remember correctly, these terms were "what could a fifteen-year-old girl have done against a twenty-one-year-old man"). Victims tend to become lovers, looking at the number of women who stay with an abusive husband. Be honest: how many die in your country? In France, it's way too much... But it's a tyranizing victim syndrome that has been brainwashed. The men alternate violence and tender gestures, he strikes by explaining how pitiful and bad the woman is and compliments her, assuring her that they are the only ones who can love them. We know that Césard showed tender gestures to Ariadne, he took her to his secret corner, he paid her compliments and knew that he was drinking and that he was raping her! Knowing this, we know that Ariadne was a victim in the first life, but what kind of victim? The battered woman who thought he was the only one who could love her? Then... Did Ariadne love him or was it all due to the fact that she was a "victim"? Isn't that Stockolme syndrome? I say "victim" because I want you to understand it, but, to me, all the women in this novel ARE VICTIMS!!! ALL! Even Isabella and Rubina and even Laressa ! This world is a world that sees woman only as... A! An object that you take on your arm and that you put on display! A simple way to satisfy one's desires and have heirs! They do what it takes to survive because they are nothing more than commodities that must be sold. The best example to support this point is the death of two characters in the story! The first, Arabella, died in the indifference of almost the whole world! Even the domestic workers didn't really care about her after it dropped! The second, the girl who died just before Maletta.... Her OWN GRANDMOTHER said she was useless because she was a girl!!!!!! HER GRANDMOTHER!! So it's obvious that in such a world, most women are victims, so love has a strange place... Is there one true love? Well, on bass, I was just here to make you revisit one obvious thing: will Ariane ever really love Césard? Wouldn't she have loved Alphonso for the first time? After all, very often she thinks she is stupid about these reactions to Alphonso, not understanding them because it is "the first time" that she has acted like this... I've never imposed a point of view, anyway, no matter what our thoughts are, the only real person who can know all this is the author... One day, maybe she'll answer an FAQ! X3
I always say she was groomed so the love she thought she had was from that. She was alrdy a victim from her family. She got no one. It easy for a young girl to fall for a handsome man when she got no one. She had no before experience to teach her whats rl love and whats a good man. Cesare had his way with her and even if she didn't like it she thought that was the way to get the attention she crave. She just wants love. It not just Cesare but you see how much she also want her dad's attention too even when he shitty and even now when he still keep Isabella in his heart, Ari still want his attention.
She indeed suffering from Stockholm syndrome in reference to cesar....Cesar never love her in both of life ..in this time line she just trophy for her In this time line Cesar is actually suffering from de Clérambault's Syndrome... A strong red flag sign..In real life it would mean Aria needed to be saved from Cesar....like involving police and hiring bodygaurd type of thing I am not obssessed with Cesar please don't balme me..But I am attached with Aria due to suffering she has gone through.. Because ofCesar she has got so many guilt feeling towards Alfonso that she consider herself ineligible..she has guilt of killing Alfonso in first time line,she has guilt of betraying Alfonso after misunderstanding get cleared her guilt is even more and she has guilt of using her relationship with alphonso to save Cesar.... You can't imagine what trauma she must be feeling inside for killing and betraying person who actually one loved her in both timeline...In real I would have done suicide if was Ari in real life out shame what I have done with Alfonso Biggest reason for making Aria of thinking of giving Cesar a chance during engagement was discussion on Cesar with friends...I think they had forced her mentally to give a try..
You are right mate it is her friends who actually pushed her to thinking about Cesar, friends change opinion a lot Problem is she has faced so much trauma by Cesar in past life.she don't understand normal thing.because of that she has low esteem.She love Alfonso deeply so she don't want to loose him so because of fear of being abondaned or getting misunderstood she don't want to share her guilt.i think sharing those with Alfonso would have been enough to heal her This time when Cesar asked her for having some kind of affair.Seeing reaction of Alfonso.she felt terible about herself.This Cesar is good for nothing she destroyed her in past life and giving mental hurt to Aria because of erotomaniac behaviour in this line. I hope Alfonso realise himself soon what she is facing and save her from her own thinking...
People, in general, whether in the novel or in reality, prefer beauty to rumors. These friends have given their opinions without knowing because they are, to me, innocent. In the sense that they don't have experience of true love, it's conditioning to be wives and they don't know the ins and outs of business. We know that Césard sleeps with women, some of them were virgins, so he has a reputation, but probably on the side of "mature" women who are looking for the "thrill", young ladies surely don't talk about such a thing. So, yes, Ariadne was probably influenced by these friends, but this situation was also reassuring for her: if she had to choose between the king and Césard, she might as well take the younger one (especially since she must know that Leo III has syphilis! XD) I say it, I love Ariane... What do you mean, you guessed with my avatard? Laughing out lol But most of the characters are constructed and thoughtful, even in their twisted sides... Ha, actually, I ask myself: why does everyone want to persuade themselves that Alphonso was in love with Ariadne in the first line? How could he have fallen in love with her in the front row when they didn't rub shoulders with each other? It was her personality that attracted Alphonso, but she had none, only blindly following Césard. He himself had been crushed by Leo III, he simply followed orders like a puppet. Where could this relationship have come from? Because it would have been love at first sight when he saw her? It wouldn't be "impossible" since he doesn't pay attention to the "physical", but, despite everything, I find the arguments weak and I think it would be literally dramatic! So he would have guessed that Ariadne wanted to kill him with this desert and let himself be killed out of love for her because he loves her? In fact, I find it a bit of a shame to see people who invent things by simply basing themselves on an impression rather than on facts, like those who find that there is an incredibly powerful chemistry between Ariadne and Césard by taking an image out of context... (The image of Caesard asking Ariadne for her hand in marriage during the Masquerade... To which she replies with a laugh of madness! =3) Why would you want to impose this vision when nothing is fully proven about this "love on two lines"? I can't believe it, even though it would be beautiful, it really doesn't make sense to me at all.
Cesar would have beated her,tortured her and raped her for talking to someone. she was expecting same from Alphonso.But when he treated her differently and with love she get overwhelmed with emotions and started crying.guilt she get from both time line Cesar made her cry even more. How can some reader can defend Cesar.Cesar only know how to do show off fake love.This time line Cesar have become erotomaniac. Alphonso,save your real treasure Aria from this Bastard.
My understanding on Aria is different.She really never loved Cesar.In first time line she directly brought from farm and she has no one to love her.They forced her to engage with Cesar.Her age was very little so she expected that her fiance is going to be her everything.So,she tolerated all her abuse and rapes in hope of something called love and it was normal for her. deep down he also expected love like Alfonso was giving to Isabella.It was rather obssession of getting love which she never got.It is case of Stockholm syndrome When she regressed ,she tried to use Alfonso to run from cesar.but after seeing Alfonso travelled continuously 3 days just to see her and his reaction towards her during her planned murder of her by Lariessa .she fall in love with Alphonso because it was first time some one was caring about her in two timeline.Since Alphonso was her dream prince in 1st time line . combining both condition she fall in true love first time in both time line. During her engagement time line.She was not getting reply from Alphonso and she had obsessive desire to get love from Cesar in first time line.She always carved for love. Because Cesar of this time line want her as trophy so he delibaterely tried to show that he is changing and always tried to emotionally manipulate her through forced body touch and confessing love everytime.Obessessive desire of getting love from forced her to give a chance.Talk with her friends actually manipulated her to do so.But still she not betrayed feeling for Alfonso.During spring ball it was in continuation to her talk with sister see ended up allowing him to kiss her.but when he mentioned Alfonso she suddenly come into senses.She still have complex feeling for Cesar she decided to go with flow.Cesar gave red flag sign many time but as reader we know can't expect from character.But his scandal make her realise everything with hims is just waste of time and emotions. She also confessed Raphael she is closer to Cesar before breaking engagement this hurted Raphael because he was was seeing cesar from child.but he just left site because it was her own decisions. When Alphonso was comming back.She behaved as if she is in love of Alphonso and was waiting for her.but sudden realisation what she did with Cesar embrassed her Then she got fake Alphonso letter from elko..It was directly blaming her for betrayal.I think she had emotional breakdown for many days. But when she came to see Alphonso she had massive emotional breakdown.. because of that letter she already overburdened with guilt and sense of loosing some one who really loved her came in her mind Reader always debated she allowed some one who abused in first timeline but she get offended after knowing Alphonso is married and when He tried kiss her she slapped her and even had emotional breakdown. My thinking:- I will not defend it saying reason of engagement because that engagement was forced and it would be injustice on part of Aria.Although it was forced but since she not obejcted so we can't call it force.It was just emotional blackout because of condition of Cesar and her desire of past.She was immature to how to react.Same goes with his spring balm kisses But when Alphonso kissed he slapped her because he made him realise of action similar to Cesar.At this time she started hating both Cesar and that fake later it was claimed that Alphonso loved lerissa...It's not like she hated him it like she not want to fall in same ditch When Alphonso cleared misunderstanding.she realised Alphonso actually loved her are very much and cared for her very much and he also never betrayed her. She started craving for intimacy from Alphonso when He stopped touching her because of self realisation due their fight the debuntate...Even directly asked him reasons for his behaviour.. My thinking is Aria loved only one person that is Alphonso.Her case with Cesar is Stockholm syndrome,calling it love from reader side would be great injustice to her true love.. Aria is just innocent soul who always wanted love but when she started having feeling of not deserving it.Such deep damage Cesar has caused to her. I called change by Cesar a deliberate move because he actually never changed in private life.like he was drinking alcohol when Isabella visited her to show letters.When he asked her questions about his relationship with Alphonso ,He wanted to control her. it was also a big sign that this is same Alphonso like old drugs in new bottle Now she has no any love and no any hate for Cesar,she even not want to think of him but she has guilt for wasting time and life in both timeline on him.Guilt of destroying things and person she is now loving most and want to cherish most.
Biggest reason for making Aria of thinking of giving Cesar chance during engagement was discussion on Cesar with friends...I think they had made her guilty of not giving Cesar a chance.. To be honest As reader it hurted me most when Aria decided to betray Alphonso and give a chance to relationship with cesar...even Raphael was shocked when he she said she is closure to Cesar...If Isabella would have not done the scandal Aria would have fall in same thing....but I think giving Cesar chance always going to be biggest regret Of seconf timeline...even Aria later found using her relationship with Alphonso was worst move,she hided this fact from Alphonso because of fear of biggest misunderstanding and creating trust issue..Now she hate Cesar so much that she claimed with sancha that mentioning his name make their day bad..
Why do people keep saying they love Ari but cannot accept that she for a while loved Cesare? It’s already written in the novel, stop trying to think otherwise. Ari also doesn’t hate Cesare anymore, after the broken engagement she understood him more and just pitied him because he’s just an empty person in real life. In recent chapter she got her hand on his false birth record, she thought she should use it but then let him have another chance to live as himself after Alfonso becomes king.
Hello, sorry for questioning out of the blue and questioning something outta topic, but can someone spoil me the ending for Cesar, please? If possible then what happens to Isabella and also Larissa? I'm dying to know about Cesar
Never loved her and used her like dirty bag. Second timeline his "love" is obsession that comes from the fact that his brother is with her and that she is his brothers woman