Spoiler Return of the Mount Hua Sect (화산귀환)

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  1. ClearSongWillow

    ClearSongWillow Well-Known Member

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    CM's hate towards gupa is brought up in so many arcs. The last 2 chap's made me think of ch 800's cliff battle the most. Do you remember how Ilso offered CM a choice to join hands and sit back back to watch the core of Shaolin, Namgung, Wudang and Qingcheng die while they fell for Ilso's trap in Heukryongchae? (Altho we know after the arc that this was a huge bluff)

    CM thought to himself that this must've been how Cheongmun felt...... CM was thinking that he probably hated gupa who wordlessly took the benefits and then left hwasan to rot 100 years ago more than sapa and yet when Hyeonjong left the decision to him, CM ignored his own personal feelings and focused on making sure hwasan's descendants didn't stray from the proper path.

    Learning the full truth...... is probably a foul taste to swallow.... but CM must've known this whole time.... how else would hwasan alone fallen like that?


    I really like how CM's words of consolation to Hyeonpung Shingae could also apply to himself....... The words he said...... I hope he can use it to alleviate some of his own guilt that has been crushing his shoulders for so long too.

    Cheongmyeong-ah..... please save Hyeonpung Shingae .... and in doing so, please also save yourself ah..... Don't blame yourself anymore and don't hold the burden to yourself anymore. :blob_teary: I'm honestly so happy cheongmyeong finally has someone he can open up to and relate to without holding back.... hyeonhwasan is supporting him with everything they have but they really can't compare to someone who knows the true horrors of what happened 100 years.

    I'm so looking forward to their future collaborations. Before Cheongmyeong got his own title of Chongsa within Cheonwoomaeng, they were both the shadow leaders of their respective organizations too. Holding a huge influence and manipulating things from the shadow while not holding an official position of their own.

    I loved Baekcheon so much for being the one to ask THE QUESTION in ch 1340. Baekcheon definitely thinks something isn't adding up and I seriously hope he can take the lead in trying to get Cheongmyeong to open up some more about himself too. I just hope he's in the right direction the next time he asks Cheongmyeong...... i cant wait for more incorrect magyo theories LMAO. The baby ducklings thinking thye were being big brain in their ch 1091 cheongmyeong origin theories were hilarious.

    KEH!!!! Not even!!!! Those gupashit sect leaders!!!!! I hope they get beaten to death again by their own disciples who got killed by magyo!!!!!!

    "There are only two kinds of people in Gangho right now. The one who climbed that mountain. And the one who did not climb." - Ch 1493

    I do want to clarify tho, Hwasan disciples weren't the only ones who died in Daesan. It was mentioned before in one of CM's thoughts long ago in the older chaps but Ch 1493 really made it clear! Anyone that had a remotely decent personality went and died alongside hwasan :blobcat_rawr::blobcat_knife::blob_catflip:

    hwasan was the only sect who went all out and sent in everything they had without holding back......... and now Ch 1493 showed that those sects not only left hwasan to rot....... they also ignored their duty to clean up the remnants of magyo too......

    ARRGGGHHHHHH IM PISSED!!!! I HOPE THOSE SECT LEADERS FROM 100 YEARS AGO GET BEATEN BY THEIR DESCENDANTS WHO ARE GOING TO DIE IN THE CURRENT TIMELINE TOO CUZ THEY DIDNT CLEAN UP MAGYO 100 YEARS AGO ARRRGGGHHHHHHHH
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    huff huff ...... deeply breathing....
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    IM STILL SERIOUSLY SO PISSED!!!!!!! SHITTY GUPA!!!! GO AND GET BURNED DOWN BY ILSO OR NUKED OFF THE MAP BY MAGYO!!!!!!! CHEONSAL WHERE DID YOU GO!?!?!?!?!!? COME BACK AND WIPE A FEW SECTS OFF THE MAP FOR MEEEEE!!!!!!! :blob_thor::blobtorch::blobpitch:

    I'm thinking of Ch 1343, the Dangbo flashback..... CM broke his back so many times saving these gupa disciples and this is how they repay him..... ARRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHH :blobcurse::blobcurse::blobcurse:
     
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    I bet those who went there with them are not those geniuses that was needed by Gupashit. Do you believe Bangjang#1 will let a talented disciple of his to be with the death squad. I am sure more of those who went with there are people who knew the truest meaning of Hyeob. :blobsob:

    :meowcoffee::meowcoffee::meowcoffee: I am calm... Calm... Yes, inhale, exhale... :meowcoffee: I will never re-read 1493 ever again. A day of raging is fine. justabotworkjustabotworkjustabotwork that's why don't remind me :blobghostpingd::blobghostpingd::blobghostpingd: because I already burned it at the back of my mind how shitty Gupa is. 100 years ago and 100 years later:blob_thor:
    Right right, Baekcheon's suspicion heightened, I hope he still presses for an answer the next time he had a chance like how he did it on Haenam arc. :spaceblobsip:

    Oh, no worries. It is fine I understand very well your replies. :blog-uwu-reading:
     
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    Urm, how did Gupa find out that CM killed the Heavenly Demon if everyone on that mountain was dead? Also how did they inform magyo? Did they send a letter or something? Would it even be possible for magyo to accept communication from the "cursed non-believers"? And magyo were the one who retrieved the body of the Heavenly Demon so they probably were the first to learn who killed him. What I mean is... could it be there was a traitor among Gupa? And someone influential too. Either someone from magyo who pretended to be Gupa or someone who made a treaty with magyo. For example, if it was Zhongnan, that would explain how the secret technique ended up stolen (taken by magyo during the slaughter then passed over to Zhongnan).
     
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    A few points you misunderstood here:

    1) "Everyone who marched up Daesan died" - this does not include magyo. 100 years ago they sacrificed everything aiming for Cheonma and Cheonma alone. The bishop we saw in Ch 500 was an example of a magyo daesan survivor.

    2) "How did Gupa find out?" - Logical Deduction. Maehwa Geomjon was jungwon's strongest swordsman. If anyone was going to cut off Cheonma's head it would be him. In addition, the fact that magyo took revenge against hwasan and hwasan alone indicates that hwasan was the major contributor to Cheonma's death.
     
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    1) But the last chapter 1494 says "all the magyo on the mountain had already lost their lives"
    2) Sound a little bit far-fetched, to be honest. Would they really contact magyo with information based on a wild guess (and why would they have a way to contact magyo in the first place).
     
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    This is based on Hyeonpung Shingae's narration but story-wise, we know that there are Magyos who escaped Daesan like the runaway Bishop from the Ice Palace Arc. Or the fact that Cheonma's Daejugyo (Great Bishop) and the 2nd jugyo which is Cheonsal is still alive till to this day and waiting for Cheonma to come back.

    Gupashit and Magyo never contacted each other, imo. But the way they acted feels like they had a silent agreement how it should be done like how it was with Baldie and Ilso during the Yangtze River Arc and as well as in Sacheon Arc.

    Remnants of Magyo knew that Cheonma was beheaded by Cheongmyeong, thus when they invaded Jungwon they just go straight to Hwasan to get revenge.

    For Gupashit's side, they never move and just watched with folded arms because it was hitting two birds with one stone. They'll incur less damages. Hwasan that was thorn in their eyes will be gone. Yahoo.

    Then enters Jongnam in the picture who "saved" Hwasan from the Magyo when it was super damaged already. And that's where they stole Hwasan's technique. BTW, the stealing part was according to Cheongmyeong's deductions. :blobsweat:
     
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    Oh, I probably misunderstood(?). I thought when the old man said that since all the magyo had already been dead on that mountain, he hinted that it was Gupa who informed magyo in order to get rid of Hwasan and then silently watched magyo march to Hwasan... "Was that really a coincidence? Who watched it? Before that (Heavenly Demon being killed), all the magyo on the mountain had already lost their lives.”. So... he was hinting that this "who" was... magyo remnants? It puzzles me that he calls it not a coincidence, because of course magyo remnants being on the mountain is not a coincidence. :confusedcatblob: I don't know anymore. But thanks for the explanation. I will just wait silently for the next chapter since my brain is not working. :notlikeblob:
     
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    :blob_patpat: I feel you, MTL is confusing especially on those parts when it should be clear. :notlikeblob:

    But Hyeonpung Shingae is really hinting about Gupashit and their meticulous handling of the matter. That Hwasan was the only who got to be sacrificed. That it was only Hwasan who climbed Daesan. That it is only known to Magyo but not to the world that Hwasan's Geomjon beheaded Cheonma. Anyone listening to this, will know that behind Gupashit's excuse of "we need to preserve our strength" real intention is to get rid of Hwasan without them doing it themselves. If they have a tiny itsy bitsy conscience, Gupashit should help Hwasan's disciples that was left behind by the core Hwasan disciples that climbed Daesan. But no, they just only watch them crumble and some *side eyeing Jongnam* visits them periodically just to trample them once in awhile.

    :blob_catflip::blob_catflip::blob_catflip::blob_catflip: ahh, now I am getting angry while thinking how sinister Gupashit is worse than Magyo and Sapa. I need comeuppance asap. :meowyaranaika:
     
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    I'm rambling again but reading some chapters of haenam arc (before arriving and first entering 100 000 mountain. It was mentioned that CM still remember where everyone died and could collect their corpse but he wouldn't. It made me think of something, If I remember correctly, the demonic cult took back the body of the heavenly demon (during the north sea ice palace arc) so it made me think would they have left CM body alone...? I honestly don't think so. And seeing all the lingering attachement to the past of CM, if the Novel is still going strong (as they aren't in the last arcs) would we see a jiangshi trope considering it appears in nearly all Murim manhwa ? The fact that we haven't seen CM body makes me feel sus, I mean he would barely be bones at this point but idk
     
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    It's funny how I was thinking about the same question today. If Gupa took the body, there would be something like a famous sighseeing spot "the Grave of the Hero" as a symbol of Gupa's victory, but nobody is saying anything and it's like the body disappeared into thin air. SUS. Imagine the second heavenly demon being reborn into the old body of CM ahahahaha just kidding. I'm still waiting for the author to explain what is the heavenly demon. But I guess it will be like 1000+ chapters later.
     
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    Ah wait your comment made me remember, didn't They get chungmoon's sword????? How did they ??? Damn, like even if they 'bought' it. How did they get their hands on it ??? Near thousands and thousands corpses and swords. They even said no one goes to 100000 mountain
     
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    Actually my first thought was that they bought it from the auction house. Murim novels always have some auction house where you can buy all the good things... As for who took the sword in the first place, there are so many options, since many people could recognize that sword, because it was that famous. It could be magyo, Gupa or some random scavenger.
     
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    How is everyone reading the story? Not where to read but how you are reading? I’m at 1000 right now trying to figure out how much I should read before I stop and bulk up on more chapters. Do some people catch up to the current chapters and bulk up on chapters before they catch up to the current chapters again? Are some lagging behind and waiting for chapters to release even though they won’t read the current chapters weeks or months later?
     
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    i just read chapter 1494 and thought i'd share the highlight of the chapter

    The head of the beggar association is actually the young head of the beggar association from 100 years ago. The man used witchcraft to forcefully prolong his life, hence why he's still alive. He hid his identity and have someone else act as the head instead. (The man was proclaimed dead 50 years ago)

    ChungMyung meets him and the old guy recognises chungmyung. They talked and the old guy asked everyone to go out to talk privately with chungmyung.

    He asked if chungmyung really is the geomjon (sword saint), and chungmyung replied yes.

    “마…….”

    주름으로 가득한 입술에서 어린아이 같은 목소리가 흘러나온다.

    “맞으……. 맞으십니까?”

    투명한 눈물이 흘러내렸다. 메마른 얼굴을 모두 적실 만큼 펑펑 쏟아진 눈물이 턱 끝에 맺힐 틈도 없이 뚝뚝 떨어졌다.

    “제, 저의 생각이 맞습니까? 대답해 주십시오. 제가, 제가 당신을 뵙고 있는 것이 맞습니까?”

    현풍신개의 몸이 애처롭게 떨렸다. 염왕을 앞에 둔 죄인도 이토록 떨지는 않을 것이다.

    그는 휘청이는 몸을 필사적으로 다잡으며 청명을 응시했다.

    “제발…….”

    그런 현풍신개를 가만 바라보던 청명이 눈을 감았다.

    짧은 기억.

    어느 날에 스쳐 지나듯 만났던, 아직 젊은 날의 현풍개가 머릿속에 떠올랐다. 매화검존을 더없는 선망의 시선으로 보았던 장년의 현풍개가.

    “그래.”

    청명의 입에서 담담한 목소리가 새어 나왔다.

    너무도 오래 머금었던 말이다.

    스스로 내뱉을 날이 올 거라고는 믿지 않았던 그 말.

    “내가…….”

    조금은 어색한 그 말이, 혀끝에서 떨어져 나가듯 입술 새로 흘러나왔다.

    “내가 검존이다.”

    현풍신개의 몸이 사시나무처럼 떨렸다. 차마 어떠한 말도 못 하고 삐걱대는 것 같은 신음만 흘렸다.

    그러다 이내 필사적으로 양손을 제 가슴 앞으로 모았다. 그는 깍지 낀 주먹을 청명을 향해 내밀었다.

    “개방의 현풍개가…….”

    깊이 수그러드는 고개에 더없이 큰 공경이 담겼다.

    “감히…… 감히 검존을…… 뵙습니다.”

    The bold words are chungmyung's reply, saying that he is indeed the sword saint.
     
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    Common BIG L to gupa whether past or present they're nothing but bunch of scums just let Jang nilso to trample and burn their sects
     
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    I DON'T BELIEVE THIS!!, I AM SO HAPPY I FOUND THE FULL CHAPTER OF 953++ RETURN OF THE MOUNTAIN FLOWER CULT!!. You can read on the newtoki website on the novel page and just search there, then SURPRISE!! You guys found it. (But in Korean)
     
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    Is there anyone who can read korean?. on naver it has been updated to chapter 1497

    I read from the last chapter I read to the latest updated
     
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    hello im back again so far the translator that bought the chapters from the engilsh translator which he also bought it from the other, stopped currently and i am serouisly obsessed with this novel i love it so much i like it i want to read moreee, so may i please get some help here there is things im looking for


    1- anyone got anything or have chapter 718 translated to english

    2- the hell is going in chapter 1479? or idk THE LAST chapter? who is that person that knew the identity of CM Likeee

    3- and what happened to jang ilso in the current chapters?

    4- is there someone else who knows the identity of CH (like KNOWS that this dude is blossom saint)


    andd my mind stopped at the moment so i dont know what else im confused about i just wanna enjoy this novel this masterpiece happily

    i really wish that cm survives till the end and die normally out fo an old age or otherwise i might cry.

    Thanks for whoever took a time to read my long long reply/comment.
     
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    Can I know what chapter it is, the part when CM searching for chung jin's remnants?
     
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    Ch 715 +