Spoiler Return of the Mount Hua Sect (화산귀환)

Rightt especially the four swords, soso, and hyeyeon.

Oh he definitely will. But I also think that he will be a BIT distracted by his responsibilities as the deputy sect leader?

Both him and yoo iseol love CM so much it hurts :’) like they are the only one who can see CM’s loneliness and burden clearly

Hmm I think it's barely halfway. I don't know how many chapters are left until they finally kill Ilso. They haven't even met Cheonma yet lol

 

I think it will be his coping mechanism - busy himself with the sect management and such.

 

Hellooooo !!!! I'm new here I created this account because my hyper fixation on rotms is getting out of hand and I need to get this out of my mind to people who actually read the manhwa or the novel because my friends refuse to and have no idea what I'm talking about

Ok so first I want to talk about Chung myung reincarnation in Buddhism i think the concept of reincarnation implys that you are reincarnated based on your actions in your previous life like if you help alot of people during a flood and died protecting your family etc etc you will reincarnate as a noble man or royalty's baby etc
( this is based on the knowledge I know about Buddhism so I could be wrong)

So according to this knowledge Chung myung should have been born as a high ranking noble etc right??? Like didn't my boy save thousands of lives by killing Chenma????

Also I want to add that anthor concept I learned in Buddhism is that when a soul is reincarnated the person reincarnated will be close to the also reincarnated versions of their family or friends they loved in their previous life so like what if??? Chung mun and Chung jin have already reincarnated as someone close to Chung myung in the current time line but don't remember their past life like Chung myung does ???

( OK I'm done! I have alot more ideas but that would take days to type
also I tried my best to be respectful to budism and the information related to it what I typed Is sort of common knowledge but if I got anything wrong related to it please correct me I don't personally follow budism and this is the most knowledge I have about it so just wanted to get this out of my head ❤)

Also If I take my 2nd theory one step further then If Chung mun is reincarnated it's probably as beak cheon or hung jong since they are next and current sect leaders also for Chung jin it has to be yoon jong since I believe that Chung myung once said that the way yoon jong acts resembles Chung jin? And for tang bo it's gotta be either tangsoso or tang gunak maybe even tang pae?

Hehe this is just my fun little hypothesis that I wanted to take out somewhere so here I am!

 

afaik he was not reincarnated due to some god system type of thing. A group from the cult performed a technique that basically put his soul in some random body.

 

Welcome to the team!!

I don’t like CM dying, But if in the case Hyun Jong and young will be super sad.

 

It’s kinda funny if it’s the demonic sect who perform the ritual. They bring back their archnemesis and the one who will stop their own world domination themselves

Yeah let’s just hope he got his happy ending.

Oh those two will be VERY devastated…

 

I think they always intended to bring back the Cheonma, but stole Chung Myung's body and tried it on him first to see what happens and fix the ritual if a problem arises. What is not clear is at what point in time Chung Myung reincarnated and Cheonma reincarnated. Did they show up at the same time, or one was earlier? It is also not exactly clear if they actually brought his soul into someone's body or just enabled the memories of people who were already reincarnated. I think the author's intention is that they have call the soul and put it into someone's body.

 

Reading the reply's made me remember the north sea arc bishop dialogue when he tried to resurrect Chenma and failed in chp 538 ( took me so long to find this chp)

The bishop said

Spoiler: Chp 538

Then, as if he had lost his will, the high priest just looked shocked and done with everything.

It was as if he had realized something significant.

"You...."

The unanswered questions started to unravel in his mind.

"the first resurrection ritual "

His voice started to become clearer.

" Right. Theres no way the ritual failed."

He was becoming more confident with his words.

Then, theres only one possibility ah!

His eyes filled with joy, sadness, and fear.

" Y-You! You truly are the Plum Blossom Sword Saint! "

With everything now clear, he threw his head back and laughed.

What did the bishop mean by ' the first resseration ritual ' And how did the bishop immediately recognized Chung myung true self after this?

From this dialogue I think the demonic cult had definatly something to do with Chung myung reincarnation and the bishop says that " there's no way it failed " meaning that the theory that the demonic cult accedently resseracted Chung myung could also be true!

Overall I think that the demonic cult did something that caused Chung myung reincarnation cycle to be disturbed and made cho Sam (his reincarnation) remember his past self and his memories as " Chung myung the pbss " to return . but this theory has alot of holes and does not add up with the whole budism reincarnation cycle is said before

Or

Anthor theory is that Chung myung never reincarnated into cho Sam instead he became a wandering spirit due to his regrets and possessed Cho Sam during the ritual when the bishops were trying to call Chenma's soul to a suitable body but instead Chung myung soul was called
However their were no immediate reaction which is why the resseration ' failed ' to the bishops

( honestly like the second theory more)

 

Nearing the end in biga style. That's all I can say. We are near.. In 'Biga' style.. You got it? :-D

If you go with the kill count of people(evil or good doesn't matter) I think Chung myung may as well have a higher count, and yes Chung Jin and Chung mun may be reincarnated but don't remember it, cuz somewhere I think I heard or saw in Hindu related (since Buddhist and Hinduism are very closely related and similar) it was stated that the soul remembers everything but the body is like a cloth that is wore(if it is word) again and again until it is worn down.
So basically they maybe reincarnated but don't remember yeah.
I wonder what I was in my past life..

The ritual in ice palace arc didn't work because our cheonma's soul was already somewhere in some beggar child's body and something triggered him to wake up(in case of Chung myung he was booked) when Jang llso forces were massacred.

It all makes so sense now.

 

Can anyone spoil me on the sects that have been destroyed till the latest chapter

 

Rather than how many destroyed, let me tell you the list that are still intact-
10 great sects - Shaolin ( lot of them died in recent war), wudang(half burned), Southern edge (part of HC alliance), southern island (half of them died during SE arc and now part of HC alliance), begger sect.
5 great families- Namgoong (Again half of them died during plum blossom island arc and now part of HC alliance), Zhuge, Myong, Tang ( lot of elders died and they left Sichuan during recent arc)

 

What's HC alliance? Don't mind giving some spoilers I'll catch up eventually.

Anyway where do you read chapter 661 until 850++? Good translation if possible lol my brain hurts reading MTL. I've found the rest chapters on webnovel but starting from 661 so far I've found only on Wuxianovel but the translation well..
If there's none I'll just make do with Death Sentence & Long writer lol

 

wasnt that just a fan theory tho? because i dont remember reading anything like that in the novel

please please please correct me if im wrong but if we go with buddhism then the real problem here wouldnt be cheongmyeongs rebirth but the fact that he remembers his past life. because buddhism believes that every creature is in an endless circle of life, death and rebirth. be it humans or animals, every single creature is trapped in this cycle and only those who attain enlightenment can break out of it

so yes like the other user above me said, cheongmun cheongjin and dangbo may also have been reborn, to be specific probably most people from the past have already been reborn (according to buddhism). they just dont remember and never will. cheongmyeongs case is something completely unique here

apart from cheongmyeong, the only ones who remember their past lives are cheonma and dalai lama. we still dont know the reason for cheonma but dalai lama is a being who voluntarily chooses to be reborn/is willing to walk through this thorny path even though he can break free from it anytime, because he wants to save people

but cheongmyeong is not a spiritual leader, hes not a supreme being or i dont know someone divine, holy. he is just a man, a mere taoist. then why does he remember his past life? no one knows and thats why his reincarnation is still a mystery.. literally nothing makes ever sense about him

 

* Heavenly comrade alliance

I found them in mylasted blogspot

 

Does anyone have the spoilers for chapter 1721 and what happened to baek cheon

 

It's in chapter 538... Granted, the reincarnation part is not very explicit, but it is heavily implied there. Unless the author written someone else in the novel later, I am going with this being the official version for now.

 

Please share latest spoiler, thank you in advance !

 

Spoiler: 1720

cheonmyeonsusa (I'll call him hao lord after this) was angry because he almost died, and HG previous strategy sacrificed many subordinates from the Hao sect side without any notice.

HG said that it was purely his own choice, it had nothing to do with JIS. Hao Lord urged JIS to punish HG (all the subordinates listened, as if hoping that HG would be punished, because they were also afraid of being sacrificed for no apparent reason).

HG asked to be killed as punishment. JIS laughed, then said that failure is not a crime, for JIS, people who do nothing are sinful.

After that JIS stepped on hao lord, blablabla, he went back to chatting with HG. He asks if he lost. HG said this was all because of his incompetence. But JIS said, if this happened because HG was incompetent, it means JIS was more incompetent because he gave HG a chance.

Spoiler: 1721

because JIS didn't punish HG, it means it's the same as if JIS doesn't admit that he made a mistake regarding his previous strategy.

This is probably why JIS used violence to suppress Hao Lord's opposition. HG was worried what if Hao Lord held a grudge against him. Also worried that the Sun Palace Lord has a grudge against Hao Lord (in the previous chapter, Hao Lord stabbed the Sun Palace Lord so that he would escape from the cliff).

JIS said they would not have time to avenge each other, because time was running out and all that was left were the survivors.

JIS says he will end it, it's time for him to fight with everything he has against him (seemed CM).

change scenes.
Moyong Wigyeong didn't understand why Sapaeryeon withdrew, he wanted to ask Im Sobyeong, but he didn't want to call him a "military strategist" (bcs his pride). In the end he kept asking and Sobyeong explained. blahblahblah.

after that Sobyeong thought it seemed like the goals of HG and JIS were different. [I think HG really wants to destroy Wudang, but JIS probably wants to confirm something from CM (we don't know what it is yet, it hasn't been known what JIS and CM discussed before they split up)]

change scene again.

There was someone talking to the blood palace lord... the blood palace lord was scared. we don't know who it is yet.

Spoiler: 1722

This chapter... really wow.
It begins with a child who tries hard to catch up with his older brother, but no matter what happens, he is always left behind and given the words "this is too much for you".

Then 5 swords appeared in front of him, they looked at this child with cold gazes, this child was confused as to why he was being stared at like that. Then he was abandoned again.

Then he ran again, and seeing someone in front of him, he shouted "cheong myeong-ah!". Anyway, he wanted to go, but was always left alone because of his lack of ability.

and... basically it was Baek Cheon's dream, he woke up, blah blah blah, YJ explained that they were still in Wudang and BC had been unconscious for 5 days, and Sapaeryeon didn't show any movement.

BC asks where CM is, then Jo Geol gets angry because CM didn't show up even though BC woke up.

BC wants to sit down, and is helped by YJ and JG. After that BC realized there was something wrong with his body, he couldn't feel his fingers properly, then the shape of his hand felt strange when seen through the bandage. He asked for the bandage to be removed. It could be seen that his hands were only bones and skin, and blackened in various places. they said Tang Gunak had tried his best, but there was nothing that could be done about his hand.

- I guess there is nothing left for you now?

the last sentence in this chapter is "this was the broken and confinement of bird wings, that the bird could never fly into the sky again".

 

Thank you for taking some time to share spoilers,
I wish BC Will get better soon and will return to Murim world

 

Thank you!!!

I just wanna confirm if it's both of Baek's hand or only one..

omg this is not fair, you have done so much white hors- I mean baek cheon..

He can at least fight with one hand and get used to it like Chung myung.. Right