Spoiler Trash of the Count’s Family

Discussion in 'Spoilers' started by immortaltear, Sep 29, 2018.

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is there any clue about thames family in newest arc atleast?

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    Tsar Punk Machines
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    Industrial Revolution steam engine


    Factory workers making cheap materials


    Rifle + Machine Gun capable of firing after set amount of rounds


    Europeanisation of Empire


    Cooperatives owner machines


    Machanical soldiers


    Swords and blades


    The natives can develop tech themselves even Roan kingdom has magic defense systems and and Video communication devices, as well as magic suppression devices


    They don’t tech mechanical devices to fight they would need it for their daily life


    Eg Hunters can be Factory owners who started factories on Similar lines to tsar Russia and the people work their as workers



    And adding another specificity TsarPunk society would always be in midst of a rebellion or revolution against the rich upper class. The divide between the bourgeois and working class would be huge with working class forming many ‘secret societies’ to overthrow the bourgeois and create an Utopia egalitarian society. Similar to the early years of the Russian revolution. With the Tsar based society persecuting any person perceived to be ‘socialist’ or entertaining ‘communist’ thought regardless of class, race, sex or gender


    For one TsarPunk would not have any intercontinental colonial sea empire and everything would be within the continent.


    Though enemy empires may be such sea crossing colonial empires


    TsarPunk would also be a society going through multiple periods of ‘Wars’ be it invasions by dictators or internal discord and revolution as well as involvement in ‘Great Wars’ causing much damage to agriculture and youth populations


    And a TsarPunk society may exist alongside a Steampunk society in the same universe


    TsarPunk would also have a very divided society with both imperial loyalist and dissatisfied populace unhappy with the status quo wishing to create a revolution and bring about egalitarian change


    And States in TsarPunk societies would be multicultural with people of many ethnicities, races, languages and cultures aside from the ruling Slavic people. And such people would be accomated within the empire through semi autonomous republics


    Eg Modern day Russian federation has many such republics like Yakutia, Dongestan etc



    And ‘Punk’ also refers to counterculture and mechanical machines. But the machines have to be related to the Era in which the genre is set. In case of TsarPunk it would the Last years of final Tsar emperor


    So Industrial Revolution inspired mechanical machines works for both genres


    Yeah politics is big part as well Historical period inspired mechanical technology


    But then it would also be important to develop a good prose style for TsarPunk genre


    But to develope a prose


    It would be important to understand difference of ‘Writing Style’ and ‘Prose Style’


    The writing style is the combination of everything a writer their diction, grammer, cadence etc and the influence of their writing style can be felt in all their works.


    However prose style is more like an ‘interpretation’ of a genre by an author. Like how an actor tries to imitate a character and multiple actors playing the same character will have multiple different interpretations of the same character


    An author tries to ‘interpret’ a genre through their prose.


    And this would be in addition to their unique writing style



    Eg possible prose style for a TsarPunk in LCF Aipotu arc


    Eg


    Yelensky wore his old dirty factory workers uniform and walked towards the Que standing in a line outside the entrance of factory. The Factory had long chimneys excluding dark black smoke and dust.


    This factory was called the ‘Dragon’s Heart’ Factory and specialised in mass producing clothes, weapons and swords for the ‘Half Blood Dragons’. The owner of the factory was also Bishop Zelensky who was Part of the Holy Empire.


    The Holy Empire depicted this factory work as ‘providing jobs’ for the poor and marginalised. But that was just a facade to exploit such people and destroy the livelihoods of blacksmiths, trailers and cloth designers back in the villages in the country side.


    All to benefit the Bourgeois of the Holy Empire.


    Yelensky had often come here on spy work, but this time he again come back on the orders of Lord Cale Heintuse and the Dragon child of prophecy.


    He remembered Cale’s words


    ‘Show them this insignia and tell them the ‘plan’ I talked about’


    Cale had told him to meet up with the various insurgent working class secret societies who were plotting a revolution to overthrow the factory owners. And Bishop Zelensky had quite a few of these ‘secret societies’ aiming to overthrow him to restore social equality.


    The line Yelensky had joined had moved quite far and now he was at the entrance.


    He could he disheveled man sitting in the corner of the entrance. He looked like a homeless person and nobody payed him any attention.


    Yelensky left the queue and went to stand on front of the homeless man.


    He bent down and whispered at the man


    “Death to the ruble of the Bishop”


    The homeless man who was earlier seemingly sleeping opened one eye and stared at Yelensky.


    He slowly got up along with his walking stick and began to limp passed Yelensky.


    He whispered in Yelensky’s Ear


    “In the old forest are behind the factory at the the polluted lack shire”


    Saying this the homeless man walked a short round for a awhile before returning back to his


    Former place pretending to sleep


    Yelensky now knew where the hideout the ‘secret society’ was located and began walking to the said location


    Former place pretending to sleep


    Yelensky now knew where the hideout the ‘secret society’ was located and began walking to the said location
     
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    Sources for a Tsarpunk Fantasy and Holy Empire
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyar (Nobles of the empire)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar (Tsar is derived from the Latin word ceaser)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_conquest_of_Central_Asia ( How Holy Empire can try conquering the continent)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_imperialism( what can inspire Imperial ideology of Holy Empire in Aipotu)

    The user GluttonPriestess even mentioned a possible quote inspired from Russia

    “TCF spin on the In Mother Russia joke:
    "Back home, Worlds have Dragon. In Mother Aipotu, Dragons have World"


    Problem of fighting system in LCF
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    That’s what happens when the Fighting/combat system is almost non existent

    A more nuance battle is only possible when a magic or fighting/combat system has been completely figured out

    For example

    Say Dao is the basic energy of the world.

    However Dao can even be further split into Yin and Yang and so and so forth.

    But we will focus on what comes after Dao.

    Every body has natural talents
    And therefore Dao will manifest very differently for different people.

    Though there are some broad categories

    Fire
    Earth
    Plasma
    Soul
    Wind
    Blood

    Each person has one or more combinations of these categories which combine to give them unique abilities

    Say for example Water

    With water it’s possible to develop a sub category of ice based ability

    And you can also manipulate the air of the atmosphere has a high level of humidity.

    Now this for water what about Soul?

    A person who has a category of Soul is capable to splitting each Dao Particle into Yin and Yang.

    With this they are capable of both balancing and throwing the balance of the world around them into chaos.

    They can even call forth the Yin-Yang eyes or Third eyes to see spiritual entities
     
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    What could improve the prose style of LCF


    Use of more ‘Active Voice’ in vocabulary instead of Passive Voice Vocabulary


    The dog ran for its life, its nostrils wide open and its sloppy tongue hanging out breathing for dear life ( Active Voice)


    The dog was running for its life. Its nostrils were wide open at this time and its tongue was hanging out. It was trying to get a breathe of air (passive voice)



    Active Voice is when the action is directly done by the subject, and is usually in present tense.


    Whereas is Passive Voice the subject is the recipient of the action and it’s usually has past tense participles like ‘To be’


    The reason why Active Voice is so good is because it reduces ‘Psychic distance’ of the readers and allows to them to more intimately imagine a scene from a story, as if they were really there.


    Even when the history and lore are being spoken off in the series. It’s always better as a conversation between characters taking place during a scene. A description of the past by the characters of the past can be both in active and passive voice. But the Scene itself should be in active voice


    Example


    Cale looked at the earnest face of the old man, his face was covered in dirt and stubble. He seemed homeless but was looking at Cale with an earnest but fanatic gaze.


    Cale felt a bit hot and felt a sense of pity for the old man and said


    “Okay I’ll listen to your story happy?”


    The Old man gave Cale a wide smile. Cale could see the old man’s crooked teeth filled with remains of his lunch.


    Cale put his hands in his pocket and pulled out a handkerchief with a cute cat design. And placed it on his nose to cover up the smell.


    The Old man oblivious to Cale’s discomfort said


    “Long ago perhaps 200 years before today? The Northern Duke lived in his castle by the edge of the frost abyss.


    The Family had lived there for generations until the birth of their ‘cursed child’.


    The ‘cursed child’ was nameless for he received no love and care.


    One day to the sudden horror of the villagers of the duchy the castle had got fire.


    The villagers had ran to the entrance of the castle hoping to find some survivors.


    However when they arrived they were shocked to find the cursed child standing there covered in blood. He held a burning fire in his hands and confessed to the murder of entire duke’ family.


    The ‘cursed child’ left after the confession and no one dared stop him for fear of their life. And ever since for the last 200 years the abandoned ruins of the castle lay untouched by the edge of the frozen abyss”


    The old stopped speaking and looked around to see the quiet and contemplative faces of his listeners.


    Suddenly he felt something hurtling at him. He raised his hands and caught the object. He slowly opened his palms. His eyes nearly popped out of his sockets when he saw the highest grade gold coin.


    Cale spoke in a low and Rocky voice


    “That’s your reward”


    The old man fell at feet of Cale


    “Oh my lord! You’re so benovulent!”


    Cale eyes scrunched up in irritation prompting Choi Han step in front of Cale shielding him from the clingy old man
     
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    Your proseogrpahy also has to adapt to the changing genres.

    Each topic and genre will require you to use a different kind of prose and use of different literary devices.

    Literary devices can be any concept that impacts the prose and by extensions how the readers perceives the story.

    When is creative with new ideas and genres they also have to be creative with prose and use of literary devices

    (Also on a side note Think Sui and CJS have to play a more active role rather than passive role in the story. So far Sui has just followed Cale around. CJS was intially actively progressing the plot on Murim, but he became passive after that. The readers view CJS, Sui and Cale all as protagonists who should play active roles in pushing the plot of the story forward not passive)


    Some examples of possible literacy devices which can be used in a TsarPunk prose in LCF


    some creative literary devices tailored for a TsarPunk setting, blending Russian inspiration and innovative storytelling:

    1. Names Infused with Russian Flavor:
      • Craft character names using Russian sounds and naming conventions. Play with diminutives and honorifics to add depth. Consider names that echo Russian history or folklore.
    2. Landscape Metaphors:
      • Utilize metaphors inspired by the vast Russian landscape. For example, describing emotions as expansive as the Siberian tundra or as tumultuous as the waves of the Black Sea.
    3. Code Switching with Russian Phrases:
      • Integrate Russian words or phrases seamlessly into the prose. Use them contextually to convey specific emotions or nuances, offering readers a linguistic taste of the TsarPunk world.
    4. Mechanical Characterization:
      • Describe machines and technology as if they were characters with personalities. A steam-powered locomotive could be a tireless worker, while an automaton might possess a mechanical form of stoicism.
    5. Folkloric Automata:
      • Introduce automatons inspired by Russian folklore. Imagine clockwork creatures reminiscent of mythical beings or creatures from Russian fairy tales, each with its unique purpose or role in the narrative.
    6. Matryoshka Structure:
      • Employ a narrative structure reminiscent of a Matryoshka doll. Each layer reveals a new aspect of the story, and just when the reader thinks they've reached the core, another layer unfolds.
    7. Snowfall Symbolism:
      • Use the perpetual snowfall in Russian landscapes as a symbol for hidden truths or mysteries. Characters might uncover layers of a mystery like peeling away layers of snow.
    8. Cyrillic Script Stylistics:
      • Experiment with stylistic choices influenced by Cyrillic script. Consider incorporating visual elements resembling Cyrillic characters to enhance the aesthetic and evoke the TsarPunk atmosphere.
    9. Gritty Urban Descriptions:
      • Describe the urban environments with gritty details, emphasizing the industrial revolution's impact on cities. Contrast the opulence of the aristocracy with the stark reality of the working class.
    10. Revolutionary Rhetoric:
      • Infuse elements of revolutionary rhetoric into characters' dialogues or inner monologues. Expressions of dissent or longing for change can be conveyed through powerful and evocative language.
      • Also Try appropriating and subverting many Russian quotes and sayings and make it suitable to the fantasy setting
    These devices aim to blend the cultural richness of Russia with innovative storytelling techniques, creating a TsarPunk narrative that feels both authentic and creatively unique.
     
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    The author needs to be more creative with the kinds of literary devices she uses. The more ideas she starts including the more creative she has to be with literary devices

    Otherwise it won’t work well and the prose will be boring
     
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    Writing serial fiction


    Writing serial fiction (The Production process)

    —————————————————————


    Writing the episode


    Then editing the episode (developments editing and proof reading)


    Releasing on website or newspaper to be monetised



    Some advantages of serial fiction over Novel Publishing


    - You do not need to have the whole story written down and edited. It can be done and released part by part. (Though having a basic sketch of the entire narrative of a season or multiple seasons is good)


    - This allows you to keep improving as use write, and also allows you to release your story and gain satisfaction from reader response


    - It also allows you to maintain a good reception and rappo with your readers throughout the year


    - it also gives you a chance to receive feedback and it can in a way be an interactive experience as this story would depend on reader response as they play a huge role in decided where the story would be headed through their feedback.


    - It also give the author the chance to be creative and innovation with their prose. Making use of multiple literary devices to enhance their story


    - However a downside to this is that you can not edit change or review your story once you publish each episode


    - Another downside is also the fact that whether or not the story will see its ending will depend completely on reader response



    - However a positive is that you can keep reviewing and rethinking your story are you go


    - This format is ripe for innovation, creativity and experimentation with prose and literary devices


    ( So one of the ways of making faster and better episodes in ‘Stream lining’ your production process. Which means making it so that you use only one method of production. And writing faster stories. Word count is just content and content can be good or bad and counts everything so I am not focusing on that. The focus should better stories is slightly more faster and smooth rate of publishing. So finding ways to write a publish compelling stories at a faster rate is important)
     
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    Imagined Action Scene using Manga inspired literary device
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    “Clannggggg” A thin and sharp sword was stabbed into the granite rock. A man with black boots and a white naval uniform placed his feet on the granite rock and stared far into the distance He could see a tall ‘Black Castle’ standing intact.

    He said “Looks like someone has arrived to greet the subjugation force. Seems like we can have some fun this time” The man kicked his lips. **** Choi Han walked through the snow clad valley outside. He needed some time alone to think about his powers. However suddenly Choi Han felt something hurtling towards him, he looked all around and could n’t see anyone.

    Suddenly Choi Han felt something impacting his chest and he flew away into the air. Choi Han was punched towards the mountain. He flew across the air and crashed into the mountain with a boom causing the mountain to crack in half.

    Choi Han brushed aside the debris from his face only to see a man with a sword and a white naval uniform rushing towards him a sword Choi Han step aside in a Nick of time just before the man crashed into the mountain with an even bigger ‘boooooommmmmm’ and the mountain shattered completely.

    Choi Han and the Man both collapsed into the sinkhole created below them. They hit the earth with a mild boom causing two small craters. Choi Han got up his black uniform and caper were know completely ragged, torn and covered in mud. He looked at the place were his attacker had fallen.

    And soon enough the man emerged covered in dirt, rags and torn clothes himself. The man had a powerful build with a muscular body. His hair reached down to his legs in a thick bunch. His moustache was was like a thick boundary bushes between two farm fields. His uniform was a white tunic and white pants with boots and buttons Overall he seemed like a towering figure who was both wild and civilised at the same time.

    His chest was exposed to the open air due a part of short being torn in half. Through that Choi Han could see the tatoo of a dragon branded on his breast muscle. Choi Han raised his swords towards the Man He said “Your part of the subjugation expedition aren’t you?” The man smiled like a kind old grandpa “Congratulations for figuring out the obvious”

    The man raised his sword and rushed towards Choi Han. Choi Han barely had a second and raised his swords to defend himself. Both the swords clashed with a “Dooooommm” The old man tried putting some force into his sword. Choi Han feeling the extra force increased his own Aura to counterattack. They kept going back and forth, with both swords lying squarely against each other none giving way to the other.

    The waves and waves of energy they gave off soon gathered around them causing the debris and rocks to float in the air. The wind began to gather around both of them causing the bebrus to swirl above them into the clouds forming a wind whirpull.

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    A few kilometres away at the black castle from the balcony of its highest tower Cale took a step out for some fresh air. “Broooommmgooommm” Cale jolted back and stared into the distance. He could see a huge monstrous tornado raging in the distance along with shattered mountains and destroyed valleys.

    Cale only had one word to say

    “What the fuck?!”

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    One literary device I used is explicitly stating where the attacks of each character are headed towards like how manga comics have subtle lien arrows guiding the readers eye
     
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    Hey in every world Cale had a goal

    In Xiaolen :- I must destroy the Huyanas purify the dead mana and stop them from destroying the world


    In Murim :- I have to purify the Jiangshi, I have to destroy the blood cult and I have to stop the World war

    In Aipotu :- (Possible) Uhh I have to destroy the Holy Empire, then I have to slay off all the evil dragons and the purple blood dragons and kill the dragon lord, as well as help Raon and Lock fulfill their prophecies like a responsible adult, And also find a way to master the Crown, Ring and the Book as well as Raon and Lock mastering their attribute and beats transformation, then I also have to remove the restriction on the world so that everything can function like a normal fantasy world with mana

    To do all this me and my family must become ‘Terrorist’

    We the CAC terrorist organisation ( Caleism Association of Crusaders)

    Must spread Caleism across the world!! Time to take out the mana bombs, dragon slayer swords and devices and mess up everything!
     
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    Also it would be more interesting if we focused more on the events from Cale’s perspective, in Aipotu arc because his perception of event so hilarious

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    You know In story prose narration we have

    Author voice

    The Narrator voice

    The Character voice

    Sometimes the author and narrator voice are the same, sometimes the character and narrator voice are the same while the character voice is different

    Voice is how each narration is coloured it includes the kind of vocabulary they use, the kind of diction they have, whether they have cadence in their narration, what comparisons they use etc

    There are multiple layers of difference ‘Voices’ in prose text

    Sometimes the Author voice, character voice and narrator voice are different

    The narrator voice comes out in the Omniscent narrator perspective

    Sometimes the narrator voice might arbitrarily change and become the author voice.

    Or sometime the author voice will deliberate and explicitly occur eg

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    High Formal voice :- Long ago in the Land of Diamonds there existed a Noble King who sat on the Diamond throne of the Diamond Court

    ( Author :- That fella really loved diamonds I see, I wonder whether diamonds have any value there though since fall like trees)

    And on his throne the The emperor of Diamond throne sat contemplating deeply on some issue of grave national importance!


    The Emperor who has his eye closed in mediation opened his eyes as if he had a suddenly enlightenment

    He said

    “Fuckkkk I am so damn Bored!”

    It seemed the emperor felt life was too dull and mundane for a great figure like himself

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    I think regrdless we all want the Voice of the story to be Cale’s

    The Narrator Voice and Character Voice to be both Cale’s because

    Why because Cale is technically a great story teller

    He can tell the same story again and again in multiple different ways

    He also has a habits of exaggerating mundane things and trying and daikon to de emphasised genuinely colossal elements

    He also sees everything from a ‘wishful slacker perspective’

    He is also a good mix of Righteous and cold and kniving villainous


    So now the above with Cale as the narrator the

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    The story was set in an unnamed empire, whose capital was made of gold. Oh man how much I wish I could take my family to the loot the capital. Anyway as I was saying the Lucky emperor there got to sit on a diamond throne everyday. Honestly he could have just sold it for a trillion dollars or whatever currency exits in that world.

    And one day he sat on his throne while thinking about some mundane and almost feel asleep before he woke up and exclaimed

    “Fuckkk I am so damn Bored!”

    Man come on you could be making a trillion bucks by selling that throw.
     
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    Cale trying to narrate TsarPunk Genre
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    Um okay I am tasked with explaining this ‘Tsarpunk genre’ okay I will will explain with full focus so that I can go an slack in peace after this.

    Anwya TsarPunk is basically SteamPunk set in Tsar Russia instead of Victorian London.

    Do you know what is steam punk?

    I came across quite a few steampunk web novels there was one popular Chinese one called ‘Duke of Mysterious’ I think. It was quite exotic for a Korean reader like me.

    If you are like a history buff and like exotic machines then it's a genre for you. Personally I found learning history here more fun than learning at school. And it's cool to imagine all those world war inspired sci fi machines.

    I read a big about Russian history I guess? I did read some Korean translations of Russian literature like ‘War and Peace’ and ‘Crime and Punishment’ which I found in the ruins of the national library, after it was destroyed by monsters.

    They were quite thought provoking writing slightly different but similar to web novels.

    I also read some stuff written by ‘Karl marx’ and ‘Lenin’ but technically they are from the end of Tsar empire.

    Anyway as I am not much of a history buff you can expect a lot of cool and inspired Sci fi tech and Lots of continental empires and socialist revolutions etc etc etc
     
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    https://www.readthistwice.com/lists/best-steampunk-books

    42 great steampunk novels

    https://self-publishingschool.com/how-to-write-steampunk/

    How to write steampunk genre


    Some more good steam punk novels

    Perdido Street Station by China Miéville

    Miéville’s dark and gritty masterpiece introduces readers to New Crobuzon, a city teeming with steampunk wonders and grotesque creatures.

    This novel is celebrated for its intricate world building and thought provoking exploration of societal issues within a fantastical setting.

    The Difference Engine by William Gibson and Bruce Sterling

    This collaborative work is a cornerstone of steampunk literature.

    It envisions an alternate Victorian era where Charles Babbage’s Analytical Engine revolutionized technology, reshaping history in a world of clockwork wonders and political turmoil.

    Boneshaker by Cherie Priest

    Cherie Priest’s novel blends steampunk with elements of the Wild West in a post apocalyptic Seattle filled with zombies and airships. “Boneshaker” is celebrated for its action packed narrative and unique fusion of genres.

    The Diamond Age: Or, A Young Lady’s Illustrated Primer by Neal Stephenson

    Neal Stephenson’s work offers a glimpse into a world where nanotechnology intersects with a Victorian inspired society.

    The story explores the impact of advanced technology on education and culture, making it a thought provoking steampunk classic.

    Leviathan by Scott Westerfeld

    Westerfeld’s “Leviathan” takes readers to an alternate World War I era where biotechnology and massive walking machines are central to the conflict.

    The novel combines historical events with imaginative steampunk elements, making it a classic steampunk adventure.

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SoYouWantTo/WriteASteampunkStory

    https://www.writersdigest.com/write-better-fiction/writing-steampunk-plots-characters-settings-more




    https://willowhwood.com/2014/07/28/a-writers-guide-to-building-a-steampunk-world/

    https://steampunk.wonderhowto.com/news/8-tips-and-tricks-every-steampunk-writer-should-know-0139158/


    https://steampunk.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_steampunk_authors
    list of steampunk authors


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_steampunk_works


    Jules Verne and H.G Wells works had a profound impact on SteamPunk

    some other steampunk authors are



    K. W. Jeter


    Gail Carriger


    Scott Westerfeld


    Cherie Priest


    Michael Moorcock


    Kenneth Oppel


    James Blaylock


    G. D. Falksen



    Ann VanderMeer

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    Kage Baker
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    Luis Senarens
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    George Griffith
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    Stephen Hunt


    Matt Betts

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    Mark Hodder

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    Philip Reeve

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    Paul Di Filippo

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    Delilah S. Dawson

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    Cassandra Clare


    Raven Dane

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    Dean F. Wilson

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    George Mann

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    Robert Rankin

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    Ged Maybury

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    N. K. Jemisin

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    Ekaterina Sedia

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    Emma Trevayne

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    Sydney Padua

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    Felix Gilman

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    China Miéville

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    William Gibson

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    Tim Powers

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    Balogun Ojetade

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    Jonathan Fesmire

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    Lavie

    Jim Butcher





    Meljean Brook


    Suzanne Lazear



    Why write steampunk?

    Ans :- This genre, celebrated for its intricate world building and creativity, offers a unique blend of historical nostalgia, science fiction and fantasy, inviting readers to explore a past that never was and a future that might have been.


    About the lack of exciting events in the plot of Aipotu?

    Technically it’s always better for a character to be in an ‘Intact world’ than a destroyed world. Because plot arises out of the inter connection of various story elements. If you look at Xiaolen and Murim, murim had way more plot because the setting itself had so many story elements, the more story elements a setting has the more exciting/interesting plots you can create. So the author will have to slightly modify the setting of Aipotu so that it can include many many more story elements than it currently does.

    Plot is also important to a character, because without plot the characters and world can be used properly. Without good plot good characters and worlds will go waste because of unuse

    And that,s perhaps why The Soos are not being used well by the author because the story setting itself does not have many Soo related story elements which makes it difficult to come up with exciting plots

    So while the murim setting was conducive for more plot because of the amount of story elements, the rest of the settings except Earth 3, Earth 1 and nameless 1 which do have good settings with multiple story elements for a good plot the rest of the places do not have a good setting for a plot.

    The author will have slightly modify the setting of Aipotu and Xiaolen either by turning them into steampunk were magic is not important but technology or something else all together to add more story elements
     
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    I thought there were no updates 'cause I was not receiving notifications like before...so glad I checked the thread and was able to catch up...thank u to the one who keeps on updating the reaction spoilers!!!!
     
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    Villain goals


    I think each Hunter family should have a different goal, they may be slightly similar in theme but they should be different


    Because if every villain has the same goal then it becomes repetitive, every villain should have different goal because their personality is different and would different things and it would keep things fresh


    If you look at the Harry Potter Franchise both Voldemort and Grindelwald have the same goal, pure blood wizard dominance but they are very different people with different personalities


    In the end Grindlewald having a completing different goal than Voldemort would have made the fantastic beats series better giving a different story and making it less repetitive

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    What if we had a chapter where old butler Yelensky died protecting Cale who was in a vulnerable position in order to defend the legacy of the Archduke snow from the Dragons

    And a Chapter where King Dennis’s 80 year old Prime minister died protecting King Dennis and the legacy of the Har empire form the Holy Empire

    And what if there are 13 knight orders each with their own speciality and commanders


    And jeuyene is the commander of just one knight order


    And different generation of HBD are all mixed in the 13 orders
     
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    Headcanons for Soo character development


    Sui revealing his scar from a ‘Battle’ in the past after he was born. Something which also has to do with the ‘Destiny of the Birds’


    CJS a wanderer who is in search for the ‘First Single lifer’ in his family like the Forefather of the Choi Family. And going on a journey to inherit the Choi Family legacy left by their ancestors


    Cale is connected to the Hunters through one of his past lives, which begins to catch up to him through familiar faces of people he has never seen and memories which are not his own


    Cale, CJS and Sui are told by an Oracle that while their paths may diverge at many points their destinities and Fates are permanently tied to each other.

    However in an attempt to destroy their tied destiny an enemy curses them so that their thread of fate may rot. In order to save their thread of fate the Soos embark on a journey through the Test Chambers of hell and relive key moments and battles in their lives together
     
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    Why don't you write your own story?
     
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    Creative writing has two parts ‘Creativity’ ‘Imagination’ Creativity




    Is how you construct things, find new and better way to build sentences, using literary devices. Eg Using Letters and documents to create narrative like Epistolary, three act structure, five act structure basically different ways of genres conventions and writing styles and building new ones by combination. Like taking poetry and combing it with prose.

    Imagination

    Imagination is ideas, images, sounds, feelings, concepts etc and works heavily on a chain reaction of inspiration. With imagination taking a single image a syllable, a word, a drawing you can create a ‘narrative’ etc Anything can be inspiration and any thing can turn into a narrative Eg I see an Image of drunk dude on a Ferrari then suddenly I get a feeling of inspiration and right about a genius racer who wins races by getting drunk. ‘The Drunken Racer’

    And how I can use ‘creativity’ and ‘imagination’ to make this story come alive?

    For example I watch formula one matches, Cars, Herbie movie, Do tons of research on how racing works, Car fighting etc Then I decide to show both prose, technical manual on cars and racer commentatories Imagination I hear a story about a ‘car’ which was once a grand champion but who due to aging of engine was thrown into a car fighting ring to be battered.

    This gives me inspiration for a ‘Mentor’/‘father figure’ type character. I may make the ‘owner’ of this car fighting ring the mentor of the protagonist. And then I hear a story about driver being disabled due to crashing his car.

    Then I might add some family drama into the story by having the guardian or father/mother was a racer who was disabled due to an accident while racing and do does not wish to allows their child to become a racer.

    And then ‘The Protagnist winning and becoming a pro racer will be kind of like a cathartic win for all the characters in the book. Then If I hear a story of a single parent child who dreams big maybe I will make the protagonist a child of a single parent former racer. Who dreams of becoming a racer despite living a relatively frugal life.

    However because their parent does not allow them to become a racer they spend their days ‘drinking away’ until one day they ‘snap’ and awaken the drunken racer powers

    I think research and theme incorporation is part of creativity. However if while doing research or theme incorporation you are suddenly inspired then it becomes imagination
     
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    I was wondering LCF universes infinite cosmology might look like

    There are multiple similar parallel universe each with its own copies of every dimensions. With its own copies of GoD, GoB etc

    Just one parallel universe itself contains an almost infinite number of dimensions.

    And there might also be infinite universe with completely different dimensions with their own separated laws.All also having infinite parallel copies of themselves.


    LCF universe might be sat the C- 1 strain of parallel universe

    With it being just one of the many universes of the C-1 strain along with the universe of Earth 2

    And even within this hypothetical C 1 strain universes there may be universe with Hunters and universe without Hunters and the will have vast number of differences. The only thing connecting this strain of parallel universes is the fact that they originated from the same copy only slightly altered.

    The Hunters maybe even cross into different parallel universe and Don’t stick to just one universe of dimensions

    However there might be universes where dimensions don’t exist instead it’s just an endless explanse of a single dimension which never ends, this hypothesis universe could be part of the C-2 strains of parallel universes.