Spoiler Trash of the Count’s Family

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is there any clue about thames family in newest arc atleast?

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  1. Elisee

    Elisee Well-Known Member

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    Is it explained in the novel that dragon half blood is related to raon or even that they are potentially brothers?
     
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    https://www.tumblr.com/teriri-sayes...ns-to-chaos-creators-chapter-270?source=share

    https://www.tumblr.com/teriri-sayes...ns-to-chaos-creators-chapter-271?source=share

    https://www.tumblr.com/teriri-sayes...-chaos-creators-chapters-272-273?source=share

    https://www.tumblr.com/teriri-sayes...ns-to-chaos-creators-chapter-274?source=share

    https://www.tumblr.com/teriri-sayes...ns-to-chaos-creators-chapter-275?source=share

    https://www.tumblr.com/teriri-sayes...ns-to-chaos-creators-chapter-276?source=share

    https://www.tumblr.com/teriri-sayes...ns-to-chaos-creators-chapter-277?source=share

    https://www.tumblr.com/teriri-sayes...aos-creators-chapter-278-and-6th?source=share

    https://www.tumblr.com/teriri-sayes...ns-to-chaos-creators-chapter-279?source=share

    https://www.tumblr.com/teriri-sayes...-chaos-creators-chapters-280-281?source=share

    https://www.tumblr.com/teriri-sayes...ns-to-chaos-creators-chapter-282?source=share

    https://www.tumblr.com/teriri-sayes...ns-to-chaos-creators-chapter-283?source=share

    Love this chapters sm. Lots happen and I'm getting busier. Still I'm really happy able to share this reaction to all TCF readers. Enjoyyy chapter 270 - 283

    It's not him but the dragon heart in him was Raon's siblings that being killed by White Star even before the baby dragon hatch from It's egg. So sad this part

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    Instead of dying, he's getting younger again & gonna live for a very long time. I guess he will able to witness Raon grow up

    He's healthy af. He become younger again bcos of Cale. So no worries again bout him
     
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    I'm really thankful that you're still providing spoiler(kinda) links despite your busyness...thank so much!!!!
     
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  4. Elisee

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    I would like to ask again for the umpteenth time:

    1. Is it explained in the novel who Raon's parents are? And whether they are still alive?

    2. Then how did the leader of the arm live that long? And why does the half-dragon blood describe him as someone who has hair and a smile similar to a cale? Is he a cale ancestor or something?

    3. And will cale and the others meet the other dragons? Or will more dragons die?

    4. Then I am also curious about the origin of the crown prince, does the king know if the crown prince is a dark elf?
     
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  5. Wylie Sofea

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    1. It was mentioned in the first book that Raon's mother died approximately 9,000 years ago while he was still incubating in his egg. Raon also had a brother, a red egg, who was killed by White Star.

    2. The leader of the Arm, also known as White Star, has a prolonged lifespan due to a curse placed upon him by Lord Sheritt, Raon's mother, approximately 1,000 years ago. This curse was inflicted as punishment for killing her son, the red egg. It resulted in a form of immortality, forcing him to continuously reincarnate. This immortality came with significant hardships, including difficulty in finding rest, losing loved ones, and more.

    Cale Henituse (originally Kim Roksoo) and White Star (who inhabits Cale Barrow's body) bear a striking resemblance due to White Star's curse. The curse caused White Star to enter Cale Barrow's body, displacing Cale (Kim Roksoo), whose soul was then sent to Earth 1. As a result, both Cale Henituse and White Star look remarkably alike. There was a chapter that revealed White Star's true appearance, highlighting this uncanny resemblance.

    3. Cale Henituse was sent to the continent of Apitoyu by the God of Death to kill all the dragons, aiming to restore balance in a world where mana and aura had become unequal. Although his mission involves dealing with dragons, it's unclear whether Cale will ultimately kill them all or take a different approach. With half-blood dragons, Cale might capture them to extract information, leveraging their knowledge to further understand the complexities of his mission and the broader implications for the world's balance.

    4. In "Trash of the Count's Family," it's not explicitly stated whether the king knows that Alberu Crossman is a quarter dark elf. Alberu keeps this part of his identity hidden from most people, including the royal family and the kingdom's nobility. The only people who are aware of his true lineage are those in Cale's inner circle. Given this level of secrecy, it seems unlikely that the king knows about Alberu's dark elf heritage, though it's possible he might be aware that Alberu's mother had some dark elf ancestry. However, without clear confirmation, it's safer to assume that the king is unaware of Alberu's true identity.
     
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    This guy is seriously spoiling himself too much with these questions.
     
  7. Kirinel297

    Kirinel297 Well-Known Member

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    Some people is just lazy to read long story and satisfied with spoilers but that post owner seems to have read like half the story, I wonder why not just continue reading instead of asking for spoilers.
     
  8. Elisee

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    I apologise if I'm bothering you, I ask for spoilers because I have trouble understanding most of the novels I read. And I use spoilers as a means to more easily understand future events in the novel. I also use spoilers as motivation to be more eager to continue what I'm reading. And I still continued my reading but very slowly because of my limitations in understanding things and I was in the final year of school.
     
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    Why does the stoic Cale keep smirking so much in the manhwa? (in the recent chapters i.e after the hiatus) Even alberu keeps smirking when its repeatedly said that they are stoic and have emotionless expressions. Its seriously weird.
     
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    Cale does usually described as stoic but he also smiled quite often, Raon even described his smiles into different type, he's not expressionless all the time, he's very good at hiding most of his emotions but when he feels good it just easily revealed on his face.
    I'm not sure if this should be called spoiler, Cale can even laugh loudly like a crazy person when he saw a treasure.
     
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  11. Wylie Sofea

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    I totally get it. Sometimes, when I'm reading something, I need to know the spoilers or read about events from a forum to better understand the story. Sometimes I just like to spoil things for myself for fun.
     
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    Hi! I know Cale smiles often but in the recent chapters of the manhwa and the novel, he rarely smiles on certain occasions. But in the recent chapters of the manhwa he smiles in a smug way almost constantly which sorta breaks his character. Its just a passing observation of mine that the expressions of other characters are almost a bit more over the top than what was described in the novel (for example: in the very latest chapter, ron shows many emotions when in the novel his emotions were not so outward idk if that makes sense). It could be that since manhwa is a different medium altogether, its shown as such but then again the beginning of the manhwa had a certain charm that's true to the novels.
    I'm just rambling at this point, and ik that it would be difficult for the manhwa artist to follow the novel to that level. Thanks for your input though ^^
     
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    When i click on spoilers it says you don't have permission, what do i do to see spoilers?
     
  14. Kirinel297

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    It's not that you need permission or something, most of the spoilers in this forum is already deleted, you better look for it in wiki, there's part 1 summaries there, you can find part 2 spoilers in recent pages of this thread, no need to look at earliest pages as it's pretty much useless.
     
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    Thank you
     
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    I don't remember which chapter it was (possibly in the chapters before they went to the first world? Like after defeating White Star, possibly around when there was the attack on the Orsena duchy? Obviously it has to be before he was kidnapped, but iirc that happened while the crew was on Xiaolen) but I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that the king did know. It seemed like he actually knew everything, including that Tasha was there. Definitely a ton of unresolved mysteries regarding the king.
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    I came here to scream about m**f*** gods :blobhero::blobdevil: and then saw that there are 377 pages...I don't think I'm going to dig through this to find someone who was already screaming about it :blobdizzy:
    BUT SERIOUSLY THESE M***F*** GODS!!!!!!!
    I think this is a mild spoiler for the end of the Central Plains arc, which our lords and saviors EAP haven't released yet, but if you want to keep all the god-related stuff spoiler-free, then skip this! Also skip if you don't like spoilers in rants; this is not me calmly summarizing spoilers. It's mostly stuff that's already been alluded to up until now in EAP chapters (Part 2 Ch 180ish) and is confirmed as you get into the Aipotu arc (MTL; I'm at around Ch 1000, but I literally have no idea how accurate that number is to the raw novel).
    Also warning for profanity.
    FUCK!!! THE MOTHERFUCKING!!! GOD!!! OF!!! BALANCE!!! Aaarrrggghhhhh like I think she(??? MTL makes pronouns so unclear) is basically true neutral BUT COME ON LITERALLY THE UNIVERSE IS BEING TURNED ON ITS END?!?!?! WHO CARES ABOUT BALANCE, IT'S ALREADY GONE?!?! HELLO?!?!?! THE HUNTER HOUSEHOLDS HAVE CENTURIES OF A HEADSTART ON CALE?!?! WHICH PART OF THIS IS FAIR AND BALANCED?!?!?! Also, bless the god of hope he (?) a true bro. These two gods don't get along since GOH is like Cale--just turn all this shit over--albeit for different, more poetic reasons haha. Fuck true neutral, if you don't like the god of hope, that is a red flag, and not the problematic yandere "red is my favorite color" kind lol
    Anyways, I just want to tell the God of Balance to eat shit, trying to blackmail Cale into becoming a god under her wing (probably to expand her influence) (also??? Cale is the worst possible choice to be related to cosmic balance??? He doesn't believe in that shit, hello??? That's the entire point of him always angling for the overwhelming advantage???), BITCH STEP OFF. My poor bb Cale T_T I'm concerned this is going to go a C-novel thing where the endgame is god!everyone, but I will believe in author YHR-nim. PLEASE GIVE CALE THE SLACKER LIFE HE LITERALLY ALREADY DESERVED BEFORE THIS WHOLE STORY STARTED LOL

    Also, possibly fuck the God of War and almost definitely fuck the God of Chaos, in relation to the Hunter households. I THINK it's implied at least one of them is directly involved in directing the Hunters???
    And yeah yeah GOB is making deals and exceptions or whatever, which is helpful, and I guess involving her in advance and squeezing out whatever advantages/concessions you can get is better than just exploding or something, but like jfc STOP GETTING IN THE WAY. And if you're going to give someone a warning, maybe don't turn it into blackmail/extortion??? Based on MTL she tells him the only way to settle the karma debt he's accruing through saving worlds is to become part of the oncoming new cosmic order as a god under her wing or he and all his team are going to suffer/die. So it's not even GOOD karma?? Like, why, bitch, why?! It's also such a bad idea; Cale's loved ones are basically his reverse scale and I wouldn't put it past him to figure out a way to fight the gods without becoming one lmao. But also urrgghhhh, at the same time, I don't see a way out of the possible karma backlash?!?! IT'S ALSO SO UNFAIR, WHAT ABOUT THE HUNTERS' KARMA BACKLASH GOD I'M SO STRESSED OUT ABOUT THAT WANDERER THAT SHOWED UP TO THREATEN CALE INTO BACKING OFF AFTER CENTRAL PLAINS. Or I guess maybe the Hunters just don't care who pays the price. (Also I'm pretty sure this is way beyond karma sacrifices to cross dimensions; it sounded like specific karma to the group of actors because just one person wouldn't be able to bear the karma.)

    Basically, what the fuck is she doing and what is her DAMAGE? I don't understand why saving worlds is destroying the balance when the worlds are being artificially destroyed. I'd get it if somehow the world's destiny was to die, but the Hunter households are behind all this shit?? If someone is going to artificially destroy stuff, the balance should be someone saving stuff??? Sighhh need more explanations on how this stuff works.

    July 14, 2024 ETA: Was talking about stuff from EAP Part 2 Ch 196-197. It sounds slightly less bad from the actual TL but IDK MAN!
     
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    Biaaa Well-Known Member

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    No, No I am not criticizing you. I was just saying that these are heavy spoiler. It will not be fun read if you know these things before actually reading.
    If you are still interested perhaps I can answer those questions.
     
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    Epic Story writing


    Taking inspiration from the concept of Dharmakshetra (righteous battlefield )a battle or war in an epic fantasy story can be a platform where chararacters have to take a stand on all things good and evil, spiritual and material etc.


    And an Epic could alls contain instructive themes related to Economics and wealth, morality, justice and laws and order, pleasure, happiness and bliss and finally existentialism, liberation, Indpendence and freedom.


    The Epic fantasy genre can also take inspiration from mythology. As a lot of the asthetic value of epic fantasy comes from its fusion of mythology and the contemporary novel. One is a tradition medium of passing Knowedge in the from of stories. Whereas novels are a medium where one can enjoy reading a fairly large story at their pace next to a bed side lamp.


    It’s almost akin to a fusion of individual silent reading and Bonfire storytelling by the bards.

    Heroic tales, genealogy of royal dynasty’s, a gripping romance between a heroine and hero, Trials of men and gods, Petty quarrels of the gods having world shaking consequences, Gods coming down to the earth plane in the form of avatars and demigods etc


    All in a neatly edited, nice smelling, hard bound book cover.


    The modern epics also have tales of heroes and villains


    Mahatma Ghandhi

    Winston Churchill

    Nelson Mandela

    Roosevelt

    Subhash Chandra Bose

    Aurobindo

    Lord Mountbatten

    Sir Arthur Wesley

    Shivaji

    Rani of Jhansi

    Queen Elizabeth

    Queen Victoria

    Opphemier etc


    These people have acquired status comparable to the Heroes and demigods of time yore.

    *****


    Paraphrasing The Godfather quotes Cale style
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    1. A person who never spend’s time with his family can never be a good person

    2. I am going to make him a deal he cannot refuse

    3. Scrap your revenge and eat your apple pie

    4. Among resonable partners, problems of buisness can always be solved

    5. Friendship has nothing to do with money. It’s like oil and water

    6. My Team Leader thought me may things….. keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer

    7. It’s a Whale tribe message. It means your minion is sleeping with the fishes

    8. Good health is the most important thing, more than success, more than money and more than being a hero

    9. The richest man is the one with the most powerful sugar daddies

    10. A Scammer with a briefcase can steal more than a thousand people with powerful weapons


    11. Never hate your enemies - it affects your journey to slacker life

    12. Don’t take sides with anyone against the family ever

    13. Accidents don’t happen to people who take accidents as a personal offense

    14. An ally should always underestimate your virtues and an enemy overestimate your faults


    15. For Justice we must go to Lord Cale Heintuse The silver shield

    16. I believe in the Roan Kingdom, It is in Roan that I met my second family and made a fortune

    17. I don’t like violence, Choi Han I’m a dealer. Blood is a big expense.

    18. I have learned more lessons in the apocalypse than in any comfortable classroom

    19. If I wanted you screwed I would have screwed you over already

    20. The strength of our family is like the strength of an army. Our strength lies in our love, concern and loyalty to each other
     
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    Reverand Insanity Well-Known Member

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    One thing YRH can be acknowledged for though is the consistency and regularity with which she writes her chapters. Even if the plot in part 2 is just decent being able to do that three times a week regularly is commendable. Usually writers will quickly fall into a writer’s block as they need to tone to come with more plot and character points and visualising scenes. But YRH has been doing it consistently

    Actually the biggest issue with writing is visualising scenes, plots and characters.

    ‘No laugh on the writer no Laughs in the reader’

    Similarly if you can’t visualise a story then your readers can’t imagine it as well.

    It’s almost like if you want your readers you enjoy your story. You yourself have to enjoy the story while writing.

    If you want your readers to feel the thrill you have to feel the thrill too.

    If you want your readers to cry you have to cry to.

    And then you have to keep your target readers in mind as well

    And being able to do that regularly while maintains a decent of not very good plot is challenging
     
  20. I Am Made Of Memories

    I Am Made Of Memories We don't talk anymore but I still think of you..

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    Most of the TCF characters think of Cale as a rich 18 years old young master that has nothing better to do than to drink and play all day, until he decides to stop a secret organization who has a mass murderer as a boss who wants to rule the world. For that, Cale dissapears for a few minutes and comes back with random ancient powers, two cats, a dragon, and so many more strong people he found WHO KNOWS WHERE. While also making connections with major forces like the commander of the Whipper Kingdom, the Whale Tribe, the most ancient dragon on the planet, the biggest merchant guild future head, the crown prince of the Roan Kingdom, an ex-princess and future Magic Tower Master, etc. JUST THINK ABOUT IT. This BRAT just SPAWNED out of nowhere and took the COMMANDER position of a damn KINGDOM at 19 YEARS old
     
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