Spoiler The Abandoned Empress

OMG, your comment is priceless!!

 

Trust me, if you have a husband like allen in real life, regardless of his behavior, you won't starve or fall into poverty he have "midas hand" everything he touch can turn into money LOL

ah u mean her old project ? i think it's an april fool, dunno but my assumption is because Ina is sick, her last update was she told about go to hospital, so i hope TAE hiatus shorter than that because the publisher said " suspension for a while"

 

Easy answer: she didn't
Ruveliss by and far had the least amount of time with Tia when compared to every other love interest pre-timeskip, even Carsein who came in the latest and was more active in their adult years had more time with her. The closest they had to a moment with each other was when Ruve escorted her home (Tia was too tired, delirious, and sick to be scared) and during the dance (when it's made clear that Tia doesn't want power or to marry him). She only got slightly better when he started easing up on her (but before his major development), but still, the trauma was still there, which is shown when Ruve accidentally triggers her PTSD.
There are a few things I think you're overlooking:

Her Support Network: It should be noted that Tia had a lot of people she could rely on emotionally. Her dad, Allendis, Carsein, the Knights, etc.. She was constantly surrounded by people she loved and loved her back. Even better, she opened up to her dad and Allendis (even if that one didn't start off well), about her previous life, so she definitely had people who knew about her struggles and were helping her through them. Her dad also set her on the path to inherit his title and promised to always be by her side to help her.

The Time Passed: If I recall correctly, she got sent back to when she was around nine if I'm not mistaken. If you include the timeskip she had around 7 to 9 years to recover.

If you couple this with her support network, it wouldn't be out of the picture to say she'd (mostly) recovered by the time she was an adult. This was also helped by the fact that Ruve knowingly gave her the means to pursue her father's title and had grown into a genuinely kindhearted person by the time they met again.

Even then I might add she was only comfortable around him, nothing more. At best, she viewed him as an awkward acquaintance or a co-worker/boss, she still maintains the fear that he'll abandon her like the 1st Timeline Ruve and always held receiving her father's title as her main priority.

Even when it's proven for a fact that he was a completely different person than 1st Timeline Ruve she still doesn't budge. IIRC @Eodez mentioned that she rejected him several times and even accidentally publically humiliated him (so much so that Jieun was satisfied). She was legit about to follow in her father's footsteps (even if she did have feelings for him) than marry Ruve and it took a heartfelt confession and some compromise (iirc, I think she becomes both Empress and Knight captain, I don't remember fully) for her to finally agree.

I don't mean to sound rude btw. I bold things for organization/point emphasis, so sorry if I come across that way!

 

Also @Eodez It's nice seeing you on the forums again! I'm smilowl on the discord btw. You might recognize me for my incredibly long blocks of text

 

Yep, of course I recognise you @LockedPuppet! It's always a PLEASURE to read your long posts.

 

sucks

 

Ditto to you here . BTW I've got to ask, do you know if the author did any other works? I know the author of WMMAP did Beware of the Brothers! So I'm wondering if this one's got any spinoffs or other stories.

 

Thanks for the spoilers! Although I didn't like the ending as the MC could have gotten better.

Prince is still a scum of the earth and no matter how many times he gets whitewashed or even reborn, it will never erase his sins. It's so hard to sympathize with the prince when I know that the he can just as easily gain redemption if given the chance.

But I just had to make this joke.
When she accepted the prince when it's clear that she's still uncomfortable with her PTSD with it, my reaction was:

lol anyways,
3/5 stars for me, 2.5 for the story plus .5 for the manhwa art. Plot execution could have been better.

 

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I'm thinking that the hiatus is due to the changes in the manhwa they've mentioned earlier in Season 3. It makes sense too since they'd probably have to iron out plot details

 

Damn, haven't been in this thread for a while and it's become a dumpster fire

@Eodez I'm glad ur back! Missed u in this thread so much with your translation of the novel! And yeah, the ignore feature is amazing. All these constant back and forth is really draining to read. It's interesting at first to read other people's opinion but damn... just settle it on the dms or something.

This thread has gotten 2-3 new pages in like the last day or two and it's always the same rehash shit over and over. People have had this conversation and if you have the time to be posting the question that countless of people have given their answers to (be it ur a fan of this work or not) then you have the bloody time to read through this goddamn thread. It's no excuse when we're in the middle of a bloody lockdown and we're all cooped up at home anyway. Just agree to disagree on some stuffs or just settle this shit privately.

The only thing that I'm sure we ALL can agree on is that Duke Jenna is a piece of shit, the bottom of the goddamn barrel, a pest, a pathetic excuse of a human being and a bitch ass.

 

But for me, TAE is one of manhwa which have the best character development so far. somehow u need to re-read again from chapter 1. the first time i read TAE ( already have 90 chapter ) nothing special to me , but after i know the spoiler and the new chapter release, re-read the manhwa again from the start , i got a "new feeling" ... i've found so many important "detail" in the story plot, i bet many people who rant about the ending etc just skip the text or misunderstood about "vita" prologue in earlier ep

 

If he had been an endearing character, why could he have blamed on Tia all the time? It's strange 'cause he falls in love with her at first sight. The first time they met was when he was a kid. In the second life, he was so mean, insanely jealous of Tia when his father and teacher praised her for her tax policy. Instead of blaming on him, you guys still blame on Tia, Jenna, his strict father and humble birth.

Mirkan isn't the only one who's very strict with his son, and so is Sein's father. In the novel, Sein's father and elder brother are stony on Sein. However, Ruve did choose to vent his anger on her in various ways. When Tia was reincarnated, he was 15, he wasn't a kid anymore, why did he show anger to her even as he loved her.

How about Sein? His father and brother are tough on him all his life, he's still nice and optimistic. And Ruve, he chose to be harsh on Tia to satisfy his ego. His personality has never changed since she was reincarnated. He bullied a girl that he didn't like such as Tia (he didn't like her for a while), Jieun, Princess of Yit. It's like he have to bully one person so he can feel more powerful. He could have told this princess the tight dress didn't fit her, he could have fixed it for the treason, but he kept silent, had a fake smile and gave it to her.

If the princess had died of suffocation, there would have had a war between 2 empires. His choice is always bad and harms people, the reason behind all his actions is just not on. That's why I can't understand you guys who are still supporting him.

I believe you mistook my point. I hate Allen 'cause he and Ruve are alike and the reason behind their choice is kinda selfish, cruel. I like Tia so I want her to live a happier life. And what I said was the only thing I didn't like on Tia. She was stealing his idea and breach his copyright. What goes around comes around, she had to pay for her action and that's why she put herself in danger.

If she hadn't stole his idea, I'm sure she never would have met this yandere boy and be in danger everyplace because he wouldn't be curious about the girl that his father praised. Maybe this idea would help him to won the tittle, it's like Tia didn't meet him in the first life so he never harmed her. He would never appear in this novel and readers wouldn't have to make a choice between two unpleasant boys Ruve and Allen.

Yes, I agree with this point. But I follow the novel storyline, so I still hate him.

 

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This thread is always always a dumpster fire, with no fault of us who were already spoiled. Its easier to duke it out on public especially those who create shit of thin air.
Duke Jenna who? Most of the other side won't know him even if we plastered his face around here.

Who exactly was blaming Tia? Besides, Tia did steal the idea. I don't remember Ruve being in the picture unless he was shamed by his father for not thinking it first. For some people, that's offensive, especially for creative ones.

On strict fathers. I cannot believe I have to rehash this again. Do you know the difference between the status of Carsein and Ruve?
Ruve is an only child. Carsein is the second child. Of course, the 2nd born doesn't have as many responsibilities as the first because firstborn are always the ones who were tasked by responsibilities by parents. They are trained harder and by all means, firstborn's or any only child's responsibilities are longer and bigger compared to other siblings. This is even true in real life. So Carsein can be as happy go lucky as he was but Ruve and his elder brother cannot be because they are EXPECTED to be responsible. At the very least, Carsein can live his life any way he wanted because there is less expectation from him. Only children and older brothers have heavier responsibilities compared to him. Even Allendis wasn't given responsibilities he thought he was owed because those were passed to his older brother first. Sorry, Carsein is a spare. so he can have the best of everything without the responsibility.

In addition, you're comparing a crown prince whose future responsibility is the whole empire compared to a duke house whose primary is their dukedom. That's a ton of difference in scope and scope of responsibilities. Everyone in the empire is Ruve's future problem. Then, just for kicks, nobody really likes him including his own immediate family. Compared that to Carsein who can be a knight if he wanted, and won't have to manage big responsibilities unless his brother died and he becomes duke, Carsein's father is way better than Mirkan on any given day. How could you not note the contrast is beyond me.

15 is not a magical age where could be as mature or as wise as you want to be. 15 means a teenager and I don't blame anyone who has a huge chip on their shoulder at this age. I had my own share of angst and I went through a phase.
And bullying in the age bracket of high school? That's expected to happen but not encouraged. Even Allenedis bullied other girls (I believe it was before Tia went before the academy) and there was a time that Carsein joined the fun. I don't see them being roasted for it.

As for the princess, sorry she had it coming. I am not particularly kind to girls who think bullying is okay especially if they are the ones who do the bullying. I don't see a reason why I have to kind to a girl who is a bully herself and drowning too much in her self worth. Bully people, some people will actually fight back or be a doormat. Underhanded it may be, but I don't like to be a doormat in that scene.

 

Not trying to offend people who rant because of the spoiler, but why you guys wasting your time with ranting while not even reading the whole novel and particularly reading the manhwa which still progressing and still a long way from being finished i mean if you guys already read the whole novel and came up with the ending feeling disatisfied, i understand. But you only read ending spoilers, the experience is definitely different with reading the novel.

 

yea exactly... I straight up was originally pissed that she ended up with Ruve when I just read the manhwa (but I didn't end up making unnecessary, long debates like people are doing here....)/ but reading even the quotes from the novel translated by Eodez honestly gave me a completely different experience. I was genuinely surprised at how much my opinion of 2nd timeline Ruve changed. I don't understand why there needs to be a long debate when some people here haven't even read the actual novel...

 

what I don’t understand is if they don’t like the novel for whatever the reason is why rant and make a debate about it. Why not just move on and read a novel that they’ll like.

 

It was Ruve.

In the novel, Carsein's father is very cold and strict on Sein, he's exactly like Mirkan. He did live in a cold family like Ruve. However, Carsein overcame all of this and became a nice guy. Ina changed Carsein's family in the webtoon which leads readers to think that Sein lives in a happy family which has an amused father and a funny brother.

Anyway, knights have to take the responsibility to protect citizens and risk their own life to protect the king and are ready to fight against enemies in a war for independence. Their responsibility is equal. A kingdom can't exist without knights. Citizens' life depends on the policy which was proposed and implemented by the government officials such as dukes, marquises, earls and knights. Their life doesn't just depend on the prince, the king or the queen.

Then he shouldn't have vented his anger on Tia. If she didn't throw off her social mask, he would violate her again like the first life. He could've chosen a better attitude like being proud of her. Doesn't he loves her all the time. However, all he did is get mad at her.

Yes, I never think bullying is okay in my life, that's why I hate bullies and violence. The princess was bullying Tia, not Ruve. But he acted on behalf of Tia to bully the princess in order to get Tia's love. Bullying's still bullying. This scene makes me hate him in the second life.

 

I pity Duke Jenna, he's more bland and generic than the prince.

You need to move on, people here already admit they like the ending of the MC being with her would-be abuser & rapist. You can't change their opinions especially here on the internet.

 

After MC being together with the prince, imagine them having a fight as all relationship would have, poor MC with her PTSD.
*Insert coffin dancing meme*

 

To the comparison between Ruve and Carsein....remember. ..carsein have a full loving warm family.....even if his father was strict in him....he saw his father's loving side for his mom....his mom and his entire family loved him....unlike ruve who didn't have a mother figure except forJeremiah who died young.....ruve grew in a twisted environment.....his father did not show him love openly....but treated Tia as his daughter...pampered one..... and as a child anyone would be jealous seeing their parents love someone who is not even a family more than the family... ( this sometimes happen even among siblings or cousins....like craving for love)....while carsein knew his father is proud of him and love him....coz he has seen him love his mother....so he knew it ...like intuitively...so tho both their fathers were strict. ...there were many other factors that influenced them and their thinking and personality and all